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Old 01-07-2013, 09:59 AM   #61
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It's called denial. Something I think RG3 and Shanahan were both in during the game too.
Yeah.

Still can't get too worked up about it, though. What's done is done, Robert will be okay and both will have learned from this.

I've already moved on. We have nowhere to go but up.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #62
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Why I pointed out, "different type of injury".
I thought you were speaking on the injury itself rather than the body type. My mistake.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:04 AM   #63
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Yeah.

Still can't get too worked up about it, though. What's done is done, Robert will be okay and both will have learned from this.
I've already moved on. We have nowhere to go but up.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Neither learned from the Baltimore game.
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It's called denial. Something I think RG3 and Shanahan were both in during the game too.
And after the game also
It kills me to say something bad about Rg3,but for him to say after the game he didnt think he hurt the team by being in there really really rubs me the wrong way
Call it ego,arrogance,stupidity,whatever you want to call it,But he def hurt our chances to win
It was obvious to me he wasn't the same player when he hurt himself on the rollout right before he threw the td to Paulson,then as he played more it was painfully obvious he was holding team back
Shanahan might have been 2nd guessed if he pulled him and stuck Kirk in and we still lost,but not by me
I think we win if Kirk comes in after halftime
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:15 AM   #65
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Here we go with the Warpath MD's. Makes me laugh every time.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:17 AM   #66
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Who's being an MD? Were just stating our opinion. No one's rendered a medical diagnosis from what I've read in any of the threads.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:31 AM   #67
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I have to admit, I was disappointed with RGIII's comments after the game also. He is a warrior and a true competitor, but he put his ego ahead of the team. " I don't feel like me being out there hurt the team in any way" and "I'm the best option" were clearly wrong statements. For the future, yes, but not in this game. Cousins could have come in with a 14 point lead and they would have had a chance. With RGIII on the field, he also eliminated the WR's and Alfred Morris offensively, as the 74 yards of total offense in the last 3 quarters told.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:39 AM   #68
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Neither learned from the Baltimore game.
Eh.

I'm not a big fan of ESPN anymore, but I'm tuned in to First Take this morning because I knew Skip Bayless would have something to say about this since he's such a big fan of Robert and is the reason I followed him his last year at Baylor.

I pretty much agree with everything he said about what occurred last night.

Not sure what Robert and Shanny were supposed to learn from the Baltimore game, other than that when a player affects the play on the field he's not playing on you've got something special.

Also see no reason to believe two intelligent men haven't already learned something and wish they had done things different this very morning.

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It's called denial. Something I think RG3 and Shanahan were both in during the game too.
I think the denial had been going on since well before 5:30 yesterday. But given their convictions that RG3 was able to play, I would have kept him in there as well
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I think there's been some denial going on by some fans here on the Path as well.
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Not sure how a hand full of coaches could have watch the last 3 qtrs and the total lack of production from the O and not figured out that they need to pull RGIII. We had some where around 170 yrds in O yesterday and around 120 came in the 1st qtr or before his injury.
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I really think that had RG3 been 100% going into the playoffs the Skins would have gone to the Super Bowl with a good chance of winning it.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. Neither learned from the Baltimore game.

So what is your alternative? To play Cousins, go 6-1 in the stretch (if we're lucky) and miss the play-offs? Why do I have the feeling that you wouldn't be satisfied with that choice either?
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I really think that had RG3 been 100% going into the playoffs the Skins would have gone to the Super Bowl with a good chance of winning it.
Aye. Our soupy Defense and Secondary held that team to thirteen points for the better part of three quarters. We would have run up the score if Robert had simply been able to move like he did that first drive, and our D hadn't run out of steam.

And we would have run the table in the playoffs all the way to the Superbowl.

And as for the post-game interview that also has everyone's knickers in a knot ... I thought it was outstanding. I love the way Robert stands tall with the truth.

We haven't even seen the beginning of what's possible with him at the helm.

For Gaea's sake, for the first time in forever we can say there's next season and KNOW it to be true.

People need to calm down.
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Why I pointed out, "different type of injury".
But maybe not completely different.

Obviously, yesterday he was playing on a injured knee from the Steelers game, which was injured because of a hit that would have injured anyone's knee. But at Baylor he tore his ACL when he planted his right foot while running, not because of a hit. And not to draw any comparisons to yesterday, but after tearing his ACL at Baylor he came back into the game and continued to play, before being kept out by his coach after halftime.

Im not a doctor, but like most people on this forum, i too like to speculate. And in my purely speculative opinion knee injuries that happen for no apparent reason concern me the most. Jarvis Jenkins last year, Meriwether this year. Those concern me, because they seem like they could be the chronic Olden/Malcom Kelly type. But sometimes those tears that just happen for no particular reason are just that, and the player never has a problem again. Hopefully one of those random and without reason ACL tears is what happened to Griffin back at Baylor.

Griffinís first, and seemingly more concerning, injury happened in 2010 and until recently he hasnt had any issues at all. And his current injury only happened because of a hit that would of compromised anyone's knee. Like everyone im hoping it turns out its just furthered sprained and hell be fine. Im very optimistic if it turns to be his MCL. And im only really worried about the health of his right knee if it turns out to be his ACL, but not nearly as worried as i would have been if it hadnt been injury related.

More importantly im worried about his long term health, because as special of a player he is when he's scrambling, hes not going to last at all doing that with any regularity, he just doesnít have the body for it. He doesnt have a body like Elway or even Steve Young. Luck and Wilson can get away with being regular scramblers but Griffen cant and will never be able to. But thatís fine because he can be a HOFer if he stands in the pocket all day like Brady or Manning.
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