Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

SBXVII · 02-19-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mbedner3420

So when is the owners meeting?

I thought it was something like 3 days after FA starts.

Mayor · 02-20-2013, 07:11 AM

Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?

Chico23231 · 02-20-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, he doesn't he was joking.

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@Rich_TandlerCSN @TKextremeskins All jokes aside that cap ship has probably sailed. Money back would be great though.

It's not going to happen people. Move on.

Oh I shoulda known, the good ole percentage joke. Information good, need to step up on his joke game.

Lotus · 02-20-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayor

Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?

That's because the Bears are not in the same division as Mara's team.

Monkeydad · 02-20-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.

I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!

WaldSkins · 02-20-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.

I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?

BigHairedAristocrat · 02-21-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?

Thats like saying, "Whats the point of even having a draft if teams can trade picks."

The draft contributes as much to parity as the salary cap does. For example, lets say a cap-strapped team like the Redskins needs 10MM in room to sign multiple starters. They could trade their 2nd round pick to a team for a couple average players they thought were serviceable. Or, they could trade the the 2nd round pick to a team for 10MM in space and then sign whomever they wanted. I dont really see the difference.

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!

I dont see how that would be a nightmare at all. Teams are already allowed to roll unused cap from one year to the next, so the teams already have a different amount of cap space. The NFL keeps track of this now. In the scenario i described above, you'd just be taking 10MM in space for one year from one team and giving it to another.

Mattyk · 02-21-2013, 02:41 PM

I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?

CrazyCanuck · 02-21-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?

The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."

Hog1 · 02-21-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."

Wow......that really makes you.......spit up in your mouth.

RedskinsInNYC · 02-23-2013, 09:26 AM

Will Redskins’ final appeal of salary cap reduction be ‘informal’?

Looks like the final appeal will be an informal one.

Translation: "Bro, come on..."

skinsfan69 · 02-23-2013, 12:14 PM

Time to move on from this. I really do not care about the cap space. Not a real big deal. Hopefully we can get everyone back healthy, have a great draft and maybe add a piece here and there through free agency.

Mattyk · 02-24-2013, 09:53 PM

@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.

Lotus · 02-24-2013, 10:10 PM

Looking on the bright side, we'll be able to sign every blue-chip FA in 2014 because our payroll will be so low.

mbedner3420 · 02-24-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.

If nothing else, at least we are being super annoying

02-20-2013, 07:11 AM	#152
Mayor Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 56	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season. By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?

02-21-2013, 02:41 PM	#158
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-23-2013, 09:26 AM	#161
RedskinsInNYC Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York City Age: 30 Posts: 79	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Will Redskins’ final appeal of salary cap reduction be ‘informal’? Looks like the final appeal will be an informal one. Translation: "Bro, come on..."

02-23-2013, 12:14 PM	#162
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Time to move on from this. I really do not care about the cap space. Not a real big deal. Hopefully we can get everyone back healthy, have a great draft and maybe add a piece here and there through free agency.

02-24-2013, 09:53 PM	#163
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,739	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away @Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-24-2013, 10:10 PM	#164
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Looking on the bright side, we'll be able to sign every blue-chip FA in 2014 because our payroll will be so low. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

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