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Old 02-20-2013, 07:11 AM   #151
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:38 AM   #152
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Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?
That's because the Bears are not in the same division as Mara's team.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:48 AM   #154
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PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.
I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:29 PM   #155
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PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.
I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:36 PM   #156
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I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?
Thats like saying, "Whats the point of even having a draft if teams can trade picks."

The draft contributes as much to parity as the salary cap does. For example, lets say a cap-strapped team like the Redskins needs 10MM in room to sign multiple starters. They could trade their 2nd round pick to a team for a couple average players they thought were serviceable. Or, they could trade the the 2nd round pick to a team for 10MM in space and then sign whomever they wanted. I dont really see the difference.

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I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!
I dont see how that would be a nightmare at all. Teams are already allowed to roll unused cap from one year to the next, so the teams already have a different amount of cap space. The NFL keeps track of this now. In the scenario i described above, you'd just be taking 10MM in space for one year from one team and giving it to another.
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I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?
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I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?
The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."
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The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."
Wow......that really makes you.......spit up in your mouth.
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The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."
Thank God those days are over.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:26 AM   #161
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Will Redskins’ final appeal of salary cap reduction be ‘informal’?

Looks like the final appeal will be an informal one.

Translation: "Bro, come on..."
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:14 PM   #162
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Time to move on from this. I really do not care about the cap space. Not a real big deal. Hopefully we can get everyone back healthy, have a great draft and maybe add a piece here and there through free agency.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:53 PM   #163
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@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:10 PM   #164
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Looking on the bright side, we'll be able to sign every blue-chip FA in 2014 because our payroll will be so low.
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Old 02-24-2013, 10:39 PM   #165
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@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
If nothing else, at least we are being super annoying
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