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Old 02-20-2013, 07:57 AM   #151
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

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Yeah, likely not going to happen. I have moved on, mostly, but still don't understand why Chicago wasn't penalized for front loading their gigantic Julius Peppers contract. The dude was paid $20million in 2010 including an accelerated signing bonus that counted 33% against the 2010 season.

By my calculation, by the normal way teams structure contracts, Peppers' 2010 cap hit would be $7 million (SB/6 + Vet minimum)... yet they skate?
That's because the Bears are not in the same division as Mara's team.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:48 AM   #152
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PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.
I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!
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PFT had an interesting article the other week where Florio proposed a system where teams could trade cap space, just like they can trade draft picks and players. I think that would be a neat idea - not sure how it would work though.
I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?
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Old 02-21-2013, 02:36 PM   #154
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I hate the idea of being able to trade cap space. What's the point of even having a cap then?
Thats like saying, "Whats the point of even having a draft if teams can trade picks."

The draft contributes as much to parity as the salary cap does. For example, lets say a cap-strapped team like the Redskins needs 10MM in room to sign multiple starters. They could trade their 2nd round pick to a team for a couple average players they thought were serviceable. Or, they could trade the the 2nd round pick to a team for 10MM in space and then sign whomever they wanted. I dont really see the difference.

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I'd like to submit my resume for that accounting position with the league office...think 10 years down the road how much of a nightmare that will be to keep track of!
I dont see how that would be a nightmare at all. Teams are already allowed to roll unused cap from one year to the next, so the teams already have a different amount of cap space. The NFL keeps track of this now. In the scenario i described above, you'd just be taking 10MM in space for one year from one team and giving it to another.
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?
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I like the idea of being able to trade cap space, why the heck not?
The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."
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The answer as always - Vinny.

"Vinny Cerrato has traded two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds - for $5M in cap space. The Redskins used the $5M to sign free agent safety Adam Archuleta."
Wow......that really makes you.......spit up in your mouth.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:26 AM   #158
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Will Redskins’ final appeal of salary cap reduction be ‘informal’?

Looks like the final appeal will be an informal one.

Translation: "Bro, come on..."
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:14 PM   #159
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Time to move on from this. I really do not care about the cap space. Not a real big deal. Hopefully we can get everyone back healthy, have a great draft and maybe add a piece here and there through free agency.
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Looking on the bright side, we'll be able to sign every blue-chip FA in 2014 because our payroll will be so low.
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@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
If nothing else, at least we are being super annoying
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

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@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
Not sure how to read that one

Edit: looked it up...he meant were screwed
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space

"The Redskins have put contract negotiations with some of their players on hold, telling agents and players they remain hopeful they can recoup some of the salary cap space that was cut by the NFL last year, according to several people familiar with the situation.

Redskins officials have told those agents and players that they cannot negotiate in earnest until the salary cap matter is resolved. The players include some eligible for free agency in March and others who face the possibility of release unless their contracts are reworked, those people said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team does not want such issues discussed publicly.

The team has told parties involved that it hopes to reach a resolution by late this week."
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Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space

"The Redskins have put contract negotiations with some of their players on hold, telling agents and players they remain hopeful they can recoup some of the salary cap space that was cut by the NFL last year, according to several people familiar with the situation.

Redskins officials have told those agents and players that they cannot negotiate in earnest until the salary cap matter is resolved. The players include some eligible for free agency in March and others who face the possibility of release unless their contracts are reworked, those people said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team does not want such issues discussed publicly.

The team has told parties involved that it hopes to reach a resolution by late this week."
It couldn't be much later than the end of this week if we want to re-sign folks before FA starts.
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