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Old 02-25-2013, 01:51 PM   #166
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

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It couldn't be much later than the end of this week if we want to re-sign folks before FA starts.
Right. Realize we've been grasping at straws in this thread for weeks/months, but to me this is a fairly significant report. If it is to be believed (and is not just more posturing vis a vis the agent community), it indicates that the Redskins FO thinks there is a chance they are going to get some of this cap room back. Obviously a big "if."
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Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space

"The Redskins have put contract negotiations with some of their players on hold, telling agents and players they remain hopeful they can recoup some of the salary cap space that was cut by the NFL last year, according to several people familiar with the situation.

Redskins officials have told those agents and players that they cannot negotiate in earnest until the salary cap matter is resolved. The players include some eligible for free agency in March and others who face the possibility of release unless their contracts are reworked, those people said. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team does not want such issues discussed publicly.

The team has told parties involved that it hopes to reach a resolution by late this week."
Yeah, this can't go on much further because of the need to get resolution on our own free agents or even contracts that can/need to be redone in order to create room.. The owners meeting isn't until after free agency starts so that won't be an option. Any chance Snyder decks Mara in the lobby?
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In the movies/TV dramas, Snyder would have hired a PI to dig up dirt on Mara, and forced him to make a change. Anyone got a good Polaroid?
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In the movies/TV dramas, Snyder would have hired a PI to dig up dirt on Mara, and forced him to make a change. Anyone got a good Polaroid?
They'd have to find dirt on every owner that voted against us. It's not just Mara.
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They'd have to find dirt on every owner that voted against us. It's not just Mara.
I know, but it's a political thing, get dirt on one or two, and the rest will fall in line. If Mara came out in support of another 2 year split of the penalty, then everyone else would go along. And also, of course, my post was in fact 100% serious, with no sarcasm or joking at all.
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I know, but it's a political thing, get dirt on one or two, and the rest will fall in line. If Mara came out in support of another 2 year split of the penalty, then everyone else would go along. And also, of course, my post was in fact 100% serious, with no sarcasm or joking at all.
Screw joking. That was a viable plan and I'm all for it. If they want to do illegal under handed stuff, than so should we.
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Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

WP updated their article from earlier with this:

"Update: 3:37: Redskins officials have told people in the league that they are considering going to court to seek an injunction that would hold up the start of free agency or threatening that move in a bid to bolster their negotiating leverage with the league. Those conversations were confirmed by two people with knowledge of them.
Both said that the Redskins have compelling arguments they could make in an attempt to convince a judge that they would suffer irreparable harm if they are not granted an injunction. But others familiar with the case have said they don’t believe the Redskins have legal arguments that weren’t already considered, and rejected, by an arbitrator."

Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space–Updated

Love that they're going to the mat on this. They won't win in court though. Leverage is all they can hope for.
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WP updated their article from earlier with this:

"Update: 3:37: Redskins officials have told people in the league that they are considering going to court to seek an injunction that would hold up the start of free agency or threatening that move in a bid to bolster their negotiating leverage with the league. Those conversations were confirmed by two people with knowledge of them.
Both said that the Redskins have compelling arguments they could make in an attempt to convince a judge that they would suffer irreparable harm if they are not granted an injunction. But others familiar with the case have said they don’t believe the Redskins have legal arguments that weren’t already considered, and rejected, by an arbitrator."

Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space–Updated

Love that they're going to the mat on this. They won't win in court though. Leverage is all they can hope for.
Yeah it's worth one last ditch effort. Even if we just got $9M of that cap space back it would be a big win.
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Yeah it's worth one last ditch effort. Even if we just got $9M of that cap space back it would be a big win.
Completely agree. Would make a big difference.
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WP updated their article from earlier with this:

"Update: 3:37: Redskins officials have told people in the league that they are considering going to court to seek an injunction that would hold up the start of free agency or threatening that move in a bid to bolster their negotiating leverage with the league. Those conversations were confirmed by two people with knowledge of them.
Both said that the Redskins have compelling arguments they could make in an attempt to convince a judge that they would suffer irreparable harm if they are not granted an injunction. But others familiar with the case have said they don’t believe the Redskins have legal arguments that weren’t already considered, and rejected, by an arbitrator."

Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space–Updated

Love that they're going to the mat on this. They won't win in court though. Leverage is all they can hope for.
good job keeping up with this.

What do we got to lose at this point? Id say go for it
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@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
With a healthy RG-3 we got a punchers chance no matter what happens.
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good job keeping up with this.

What do we got to lose at this point? Id say go for it
Amazing what a slow day at work can do...

Have to give the Skins FO (under Bruce Allen) credit for working the media to their advantage. All we can do is have faith in their PR strategy at this point. Can't see what the legal argument is that the NFLPA hasn't already made to Judge Doty (and lost). "Irreparable harm" is not a cause of action, it is one of the requirements for a TRO. Also need likelihood of success on the merits of whatever it is they are alleging as their cause of action.
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Amazing what a slow day at work can do...

Have to give the Skins FO (under Bruce Allen) credit for working the media to their advantage. All we can do is have faith in their PR strategy at this point. Can't see what the legal argument is that the NFLPA hasn't already made to Judge Doty (and lost). "Irreparable harm" is not a cause of action, it is one of the requirements for a TRO. Also need likelihood of success on the merits of whatever it is they are alleging as their cause of action.
Remember that the NFLPA case is entirely separate from anything that the Redskins might argue in court. It would be huge if the Skins were to go forward with this, and I think absolutely crazy. But from a NFL perspective, holding up Free Agency, or the start of the league year, or any other aspect, would certainly cause owners to think twice about the fine in it's entirety.
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Go Danny go, kick everyone in the nuts and show them who is king. Make Mara and his cronies regret pulling this stunt.
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