Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Redskins Locker Room


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-25-2013, 04:58 PM   #181
Gamebreaker
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 37
Posts: 12,603
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedskinsInNYC View Post
WP updated their article from earlier with this:

"Update: 3:37: Redskins officials have told people in the league that they are considering going to court to seek an injunction that would hold up the start of free agency or threatening that move in a bid to bolster their negotiating leverage with the league. Those conversations were confirmed by two people with knowledge of them.
Both said that the Redskins have compelling arguments they could make in an attempt to convince a judge that they would suffer irreparable harm if they are not granted an injunction. But others familiar with the case have said they don’t believe the Redskins have legal arguments that weren’t already considered, and rejected, by an arbitrator."

Redskins put contract talks on hold as they work to recoup salary cap space–Updated

Love that they're going to the mat on this. They won't win in court though. Leverage is all they can hope for.
good job keeping up with this.

What do we got to lose at this point? Id say go for it
__________________
Boycott Rolling Stone Magazine
Chico23231 is offline  

Advertisements
Old 02-25-2013, 05:17 PM   #182
Registered User
 
CultBrennan59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 6,527
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
Yeah it's worth one last ditch effort. Even if we just got $9M of that cap space back it would be a big win.
Agreed. The nfl is a weird business; they fine teams for wanting to spend money on players, and fine players for not dressing accordingly, yet don't fine players for pushing referees.
CultBrennan59 is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 05:18 PM   #183
Pro Bowl
 
punch it in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: toms river, nj
Age: 43
Posts: 6,620
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk View Post
@Rich_Campbell: My top takeaway from Indy: the Redskins' $18M cap penalty is quite disruptive, per NFL sources. Tough decisions, frustration lie ahead.
With a healthy RG-3 we got a punchers chance no matter what happens.
__________________
I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows.
punch it in is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 05:24 PM   #184
Special Teams
 
RedskinsInNYC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New York City
Age: 31
Posts: 110
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chico23231 View Post
good job keeping up with this.

What do we got to lose at this point? Id say go for it
Amazing what a slow day at work can do...

Have to give the Skins FO (under Bruce Allen) credit for working the media to their advantage. All we can do is have faith in their PR strategy at this point. Can't see what the legal argument is that the NFLPA hasn't already made to Judge Doty (and lost). "Irreparable harm" is not a cause of action, it is one of the requirements for a TRO. Also need likelihood of success on the merits of whatever it is they are alleging as their cause of action.
RedskinsInNYC is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 05:39 PM   #185
Gamebreaker
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 37
Posts: 12,603
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap space | ProFootballTalk
__________________
Boycott Rolling Stone Magazine
Chico23231 is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 05:53 PM   #186
Gamebreaker
 
CRedskinsRule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pasadena, Md
Age: 47
Posts: 12,882
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedskinsInNYC View Post
Amazing what a slow day at work can do...

Have to give the Skins FO (under Bruce Allen) credit for working the media to their advantage. All we can do is have faith in their PR strategy at this point. Can't see what the legal argument is that the NFLPA hasn't already made to Judge Doty (and lost). "Irreparable harm" is not a cause of action, it is one of the requirements for a TRO. Also need likelihood of success on the merits of whatever it is they are alleging as their cause of action.
Remember that the NFLPA case is entirely separate from anything that the Redskins might argue in court. It would be huge if the Skins were to go forward with this, and I think absolutely crazy. But from a NFL perspective, holding up Free Agency, or the start of the league year, or any other aspect, would certainly cause owners to think twice about the fine in it's entirety.
__________________
Dirtbag59, sending songs to oblivion 1 writer at a time.
CRedskinsRule is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:05 PM   #187
Franchise Player
 
SFREDSKIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pacifica, CA
Posts: 7,899
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Go Danny go, kick everyone in the nuts and show them who is king. Make Mara and his cronies regret pulling this stunt.
__________________
Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs.

Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory.

Darrell Green- Best DB ever.


Purveyor of fine Filth
SFREDSKIN is online now  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:17 PM   #188
Registered User
 
BigHairedAristocrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,917
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

From the PFT Article:

Quote:
They could bebluffing about going to court in order to get, for example, half of their cap money back (i.e., the $18 million that would apply to this year’s cap). But the NFL could choose to call their bluff and go to court.
Snyder took impoverished old ladies to court for not paying their season ticket fees and a newspaper to court for disparaging his wife. Why on earth would the NFL think he wouldnt sue their asses off for illegally colluding to screw him over? If they think he's bluffing, theyre in for a shock.

The league screwed us over on the eve of free agency last year. I love the idea of holding the whole league hostage on the eve of free agency this year.
BigHairedAristocrat is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:22 PM   #189
Pro Bowl
 
Giantone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,247
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat View Post
From the PFT Article:



Snyder took impoverished old ladies to court for not paying their season ticket fees and a newspaper to court for disparaging his wife. Why on earth would the NFL think he wouldnt sue their asses off for illegally colluding to screw him over? If they think he's bluffing, theyre in for a shock.

.

....and he lost in both cases.The old lady fought back and won and the paper fought back and everything was drop.
__________________
....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.
Giantone is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM   #190
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedskinsInNYC View Post
Amazing what a slow day at work can do...

Have to give the Skins FO (under Bruce Allen) credit for working the media to their advantage. All we can do is have faith in their PR strategy at this point. Can't see what the legal argument is that the NFLPA hasn't already made to Judge Doty (and lost). "Irreparable harm" is not a cause of action, it is one of the requirements for a TRO. Also need likelihood of success on the merits of whatever it is they are alleging as their cause of action.
For one, I'm excited. I bet the other owners are pissed that we might hold Free Agency up by filing. lol.

The NFLPA has lost their claim cause they supposedly signed a contract that they would not file any claim for collusion. The Redskins and Cowboys never signed an agreement and got punished for doing nothing. So if anyone has a claim its the two teams for being punished for not breaking the law (colluding) and god knows the NFL does not want to lose their freedom to do what they want vs being overseen by the feds.
SBXVII is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:40 PM   #191
Registered User
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule View Post
Remember that the NFLPA case is entirely separate from anything that the Redskins might argue in court. It would be huge if the Skins were to go forward with this, and I think absolutely crazy. But from a NFL perspective, holding up Free Agency, or the start of the league year, or any other aspect, would certainly cause owners to think twice about the fine in it's entirety.
I agree with you and think this option is awesome. Lets air the dirty laundry ... collusion. lol.
SBXVII is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:42 PM   #192
Playmaker
 
CrustyRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: RatherbeinDC, TX
Posts: 2,678
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat View Post
From the PFT Article:



Snyder took impoverished old ladies to court for not paying their season ticket fees and a newspaper to court for disparaging his wife. Why on earth would the NFL think he wouldnt sue their asses off for illegally colluding to screw him over? If they think he's bluffing, theyre in for a shock.

The league screwed us over on the eve of free agency last year. I love the idea of holding the whole league hostage on the eve of free agency this year.
fn right on man right on.
__________________
Lafayette, we're here.

HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.
CrustyRedskin is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 06:57 PM   #193
Pro Bowl
 
Giantone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,247
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Question, so would this just be the Skins or would the Cowboys join the Skins?
__________________
....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.
Giantone is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 07:09 PM   #194
Playmaker
 
NYCskinfan82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Queens, NYC
Age: 45
Posts: 3,441
Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

Redskins Future Cap Situation - Hogs Haven

Something to think about.
NYCskinfan82 is offline  
Old 02-25-2013, 07:24 PM   #195
Gamebreaker
 
CRedskinsRule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Pasadena, Md
Age: 47
Posts: 12,882
Quote:
Originally Posted by Giantone View Post
Question, so would this just be the Skins or would the Cowboys join the Skins?
Unless it had a chance to succeed, I don't think Jerry would join in because he wants to bring the Superbowl to his stadium. Danny knows he won't get a Superbowl anytime soon.
__________________
Dirtbag59, sending songs to oblivion 1 writer at a time.
CRedskinsRule is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28050 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25