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Old 03-11-2013, 11:18 PM   #301
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I literally believe nothing about this article: Bruce Allen’s cap-penalty comments hint at a possible deal with league | ProFootballTalk

Would be nice though.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:56 AM   #302
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Goodell and Mara can go straight hell. Mara pushed this to have a competitive advantage and we still won the division.
Yup. When it came to division rivals, I always had a healthy respect, but not hate, for the Giants. That's over. I hope we score 100 points each game against them next year.

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Graziano says the penalties have cost us 6-8 players, but that doesn't bother me as much as the players the Skins may lose. The penalty was BS and, in a flat cap year, really buts the screws to the team.

F Mara.
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I agree with the F Mara crowd, but just as much, this should be seen as the Cerrato legacy as well. It was his bloated contracts to Hall and AH that led us to doing the (perfectly legal) moves in the uncapped year. Had we let those contracts play out, we would be in a similar situation.

That said, this FO has done a good job to right the ship and keep the balance between long term value and long term obligations. Regardless of how our cap is tied this year, going forward you have to see a lot of positives in the future for the Skins.
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:57 AM   #304
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Just point of note, according to HTTR/24-7 (LL), it was Jeffrey Lurie that started this whole ordeal and not Mara. Mara just happens to be the head of that committee. I'm sure he relished punishing his division rivals though, knowing it would strap them. They are going to hate it if they ever need to support of Danny boy.
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Just point of note, according to HTTR/24-7 (LL), it was Jeffrey Lurie that started this whole ordeal and not Mara. Mara just happens to be the head of that committee. I'm sure he relished punishing his division rivals though, knowing it would strap them. They are going to hate it if they ever need to support of Danny boy.
Maybe so, and I already hate the Eagles so that's fine, but like JR, I have always had a good amount of respect for the Giants. Further, Lurie kept his mouth shut during the aftershocks last year, and Mara made several foot in mouth/f you type comments.
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I literally believe nothing about this article: Bruce Allenís cap-penalty comments hint at a possible deal with league | ProFootballTalk

Would be nice though.
That was just Florio trying to create drama and intrigue when the ship has sailed. Florio bases his entire "story" on "a source familiar with the teamís thinking throughout this process." What the hell is a source familiar with the teams thinking, anyway? Florio is speculating on someone elses alleged speculation about the teams collective thought process - not on someone with actual KNOWLEDGE of the situation.

Chris Russell actually has sources. Yesterday, on ESPN980, he said that his sources told him that Allen has been pleading with direct reports of Goodell to convince Goodell to change his mind. He said those league employees all agreed that the Redskins got screwed and the entire penalty was bogus. They have pleaded with Goodell on the Skins behalf numerous times, but Goodell wont budge. Allen's comments yesterday about the situation being a "travesty of fairness" certainly wouldnt do anything to soften Goodells position.

This ship has sailed. Its time to move on.
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Mike Shanahan said yesterday the cap penalty cost them six to eight signings in free agency the past 2 offseason.
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Mike Shanahan said yesterday the cap penalty cost them six to eight signings in free agency the past 2 offseason.
I'm glad we dont have the money then.
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I'm glad we dont have the money then.
No way.
We could have had Dunta Robinson or kept Hall and then our pick of a FA safety or two.
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No way.
We could have had Dunta Robinson or kept Hall and then our pick of a FA safety or two.
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Just point of note, according to HTTR/24-7 (LL), it was Jeffrey Lurie that started this whole ordeal and not Mara. Mara just happens to be the head of that committee. I'm sure he relished punishing his division rivals though, knowing it would strap them. They are going to hate it if they ever need to support of Danny boy.
Well, then Lurie can go straight to hell too!
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At some point Mara and Lurie will need Dan's support on something...I doubt they'll enjoy his response.
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I'm glad we dont have the money then.
Seriously. I guarantee in a couple years, we're going to look back on this cap penalty and realize that it probably helped us by saving us from ourselves. This needs to be a building phase for our team where we collect as much young talent as possible so we are better off in the future. This cap penalty is forcing us to make the absolute most out of our draft picks and allow these guys to play and develop.

If we didn't have the cap penalty, we'd just be overspending on free agents that are going to be 30 years old soon in order to maybe get a few more short-term wins. This strategy does not work in the long term, as I hope you guys have figured out these last 13 years under Dan Snyder. If that hasn't taught you how to not build a team, I don't know what will. Our team is more than 1 or 2 players away from a Super Bowl. We need to keep having good picks and developing young guys. Then maybe you can sign a couple big name free agents when you have a team that is ready to go to a Super Bowl and just needs a little extra push.
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At some point Mara and Lurie will need Dan's support on something...I doubt they'll enjoy his response.
Something like in the line of go **** yourselfs!! Assholes!!
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Seriously. I guarantee in a couple years, we're going to look back on this cap penalty and realize that it probably helped us by saving us from ourselves. This needs to be a building phase for our team where we collect as much young talent as possible so we are better off in the future. This cap penalty is forcing us to make the absolute most out of our draft picks and allow these guys to play and develop.

If we didn't have the cap penalty, we'd just be overspending on free agents that are going to be 30 years old soon in order to maybe get a few more short-term wins. This strategy does not work in the long term, as I hope you guys have figured out these last 13 years under Dan Snyder. If that hasn't taught you how to not build a team, I don't know what will. Our team is more than 1 or 2 players away from a Super Bowl. We need to keep having good picks and developing young guys. Then maybe you can sign a couple big name free agents when you have a team that is ready to go to a Super Bowl and just needs a little extra push.
Build off draft picks, find a gem in free agency or through trades every once a while, and every 5 years you can get a big name that you believe is the sole missing piece, but not the building block.
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