Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-19-2013, 10:35 AM

Now, with the recent confirmation that we are in no way recouping any cash back this is a dead issue... I do to Joe, hoping for some miracle of justice to be reported saying we are getting the money back this year and an extra 18 mil next year or maybe an extra 2 mil on our salary cap for the next 18 years. F U NFL.

CrazyCanuck · 03-19-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I come back to this thread all the time ... I just don't know why. Morbid fascination I guess.

Ditto. I keep hoping I'll see "closed".

Chico23231 · 03-19-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

This thread has turned into haikus. Close this poetic crap.

Dont be a Hatter
Focus on next draft sleepers
Shanny draft genius

Lotus · 03-19-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Dont be a Hatter
Focus on next draft sleepers
Shanny draft genius

Well done.

mooby · 03-19-2013, 01:01 PM

Screw Goodell/Mara
The Shanahans will fix this
'Ayebody jealous

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-19-2013, 01:32 PM

This year kinda sucks for improving our team through free agency, but we should have oodles of cap space in 2014. As it stands now, we've got about 23MM in cap room available (assuming the cap stays fairly flat). Orakpo is the only significatn player with an expiring contract. Further, we've got ALOT of players scheduled to make waaaaay more money than they are worth (Josh Morgan is a prime example, due over 10MM next year). Just looking over the cap chart, if the cap stays flat, and we make reasonable moves to cut/restructure certain players, we could easily have 40MM to play with. If Vinny were running things, that would be cause for concern and we'd have to worry about signing a bunch of old guys to ridiculous contracts. With Shanahan and Allen calling the shots, that means we can sign a number of young, quality players while offering extensions to deserving home-grown players.

Alvin Walton · 03-19-2013, 01:48 PM

A dyslexic man walks into a bra.

BaltimoreSkins · 03-19-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Verbal contracts are legal, but the agreement itself can't be illegal. This to me is similar to all of us agreeing to purchase drugs, two of us fans don't, and the rest of us punish those two by making them give the rest of us $$ to make up for it.

The court has been just as bad.....(overlook the illegal agreement) well there was an agreement between owners, the NFLPA waited too long to file and signed away their rights, so....yeah punishment should stand.

wait... what drugs are we buying?

Chico23231 · 03-19-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

wait... what drugs are we buying?

the drugs to revive this horse

SBXVII · 03-19-2013, 02:31 PM

Look, I come here in hopes I'll find out that some how some way our team owners is actually doing something productive in order to get the CAP back. I get let down each time. I'm also a person whom believes in fairness, and although life sometimes is not fair, I still like to think something can be done about the unfairness.

Since no one on this board wants me to go into other threads ranting about our punishment periodically I come here to vent. Unfortunatly I'm met with people who are finished with the topic, done, and have decided to move on whom for whatever reason can't bring themselves to not come into this thread if they are done talking about it so they would prefer it closed.

If your done don't come. Let the rest of us come and vent. Unless you'd like for us to bring the topic up in other threads once and a while? I'm trying to be polite and keeping the talk to this thread and now your talking about wanting it closed.

Don't hate if I speak my mind in another thread then. Just ignore and move on.

Lotus · 03-19-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Screw Goodell/Mara
The Shanahans will fix this
'Ayebody jealous

Nice.

SBXVII · 03-19-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

wait... what drugs are we buying?

Sugar pills.

Lotus · 03-19-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This year kinda sucks for improving our team through free agency, but we should have oodles of cap space in 2014. As it stands now, we've got about 23MM in cap room available (assuming the cap stays fairly flat). Orakpo is the only significatn player with an expiring contract. Further, we've got ALOT of players scheduled to make waaaaay more money than they are worth (Josh Morgan is a prime example, due over 10MM next year). Just looking over the cap chart, if the cap stays flat, and we make reasonable moves to cut/restructure certain players, we could easily have 40MM to play with. If Vinny were running things, that would be cause for concern and we'd have to worry about signing a bunch of old guys to ridiculous contracts. With Shanahan and Allen calling the shots, that means we can sign a number of young, quality players while offering extensions to deserving home-grown players.

Right on. And there's the rub for the rest of the league: after forcing us on a diet, they will HATE how slim we are a year from now. There will be a measure of payback.

FRPLG · 03-19-2013, 07:39 PM

There are a handful of major revenue teams but make no mistake....they all make money. Problem is the top revenue teams like DC, Dal, NE, NYs, Pitt, Philly have boat loads more cash to spend...which matters. Just because a team runs a 115 million dollar cap number doesn't mean that's their cash outlay. It could be 50% higher. Or lower. The amortization of guaranteed monies plays a big role. That's why DS's style has been so disliked. Many teams can't really compete with it. Had it ever really worked you can be sure that the new CBA would have addressed he issue more aggressively.

Giantone · 03-19-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RGIII

Roughly 4 teams in this league 'make' the NFL. WSH, DAL, PITT, and ________.

Nope,not even close.Really expect people to think NE,GB,Oakland.SanFran,Da Bears,Eagles...don't help make up the NFL

03-19-2013, 10:35 AM	#436
artmonkforhallofamein07 Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 4,323	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Now, with the recent confirmation that we are in no way recouping any cash back this is a dead issue... I do to Joe, hoping for some miracle of justice to be reported saying we are getting the money back this year and an extra 18 mil next year or maybe an extra 2 mil on our salary cap for the next 18 years. F U NFL. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - 3-9 can it just be over.. Can we just get to 5-11 this year? lol http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

03-19-2013, 01:01 PM	#440
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 25 Posts: 11,484	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Screw Goodell/Mara The Shanahans will fix this 'Ayebody jealous

03-19-2013, 01:32 PM	#441
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,823	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away This year kinda sucks for improving our team through free agency, but we should have oodles of cap space in 2014. As it stands now, we've got about 23MM in cap room available (assuming the cap stays fairly flat). Orakpo is the only significatn player with an expiring contract. Further, we've got ALOT of players scheduled to make waaaaay more money than they are worth (Josh Morgan is a prime example, due over 10MM next year). Just looking over the cap chart, if the cap stays flat, and we make reasonable moves to cut/restructure certain players, we could easily have 40MM to play with. If Vinny were running things, that would be cause for concern and we'd have to worry about signing a bunch of old guys to ridiculous contracts. With Shanahan and Allen calling the shots, that means we can sign a number of young, quality players while offering extensions to deserving home-grown players. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

03-19-2013, 01:48 PM	#442
Alvin Walton Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 3,911	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away A dyslexic man walks into a bra. __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968 CHARTER MEMEBER OF THE DALLAS SWEEPERS CLUB

03-19-2013, 02:31 PM	#445
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,655	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away Look, I come here in hopes I'll find out that some how some way our team owners is actually doing something productive in order to get the CAP back. I get let down each time. I'm also a person whom believes in fairness, and although life sometimes is not fair, I still like to think something can be done about the unfairness. Since no one on this board wants me to go into other threads ranting about our punishment periodically I come here to vent. Unfortunatly I'm met with people who are finished with the topic, done, and have decided to move on whom for whatever reason can't bring themselves to not come into this thread if they are done talking about it so they would prefer it closed. If your done don't come. Let the rest of us come and vent. Unless you'd like for us to bring the topic up in other threads once and a while? I'm trying to be polite and keeping the talk to this thread and now your talking about wanting it closed. Don't hate if I speak my mind in another thread then. Just ignore and move on.

03-19-2013, 07:39 PM	#449
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 9,644	Re: Good/Bad News for a Change - 2013 18MM cap penalty probably (not) going away There are a handful of major revenue teams but make no mistake....they all make money. Problem is the top revenue teams like DC, Dal, NE, NYs, Pitt, Philly have boat loads more cash to spend...which matters. Just because a team runs a 115 million dollar cap number doesn't mean that's their cash outlay. It could be 50% higher. Or lower. The amortization of guaranteed monies plays a big role. That's why DS's style has been so disliked. Many teams can't really compete with it. Had it ever really worked you can be sure that the new CBA would have addressed he issue more aggressively.

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