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Old 01-16-2013, 04:06 PM   #346
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The problem is that he's carrying out the fakes and the defense doesn't know he doesn't have the ball. They aren't going to penalize the defense on this. They didn't the whole season.
youre describing the RGIII pre-concusssion. Post-concussion, RGIII started turning towards defenders while holding his hands up to make it clear he doesnt have the ball - if they still hit him, they get flagged. Wilson and Kaepernick picked up on it and do the same thing. Its almost comical to watch. These QBs completely fool defenders (and even the cameraman) and make them think they have the ball, the defenders come in as if theyre going to get a sack/tackle, and then the QBs show empty hands in the defenders face. I view it as a fun/legal/necessary form of taunting.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:25 PM   #347
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Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

I think the d-coordinators will eventually just tell the DE to go straight for the QB, and ignore the RB and the fake.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:29 PM   #348
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I think the d-coordinators will eventually just tell the DE to go straight for the QB, and ignore the RB and the fake.
You're basically taking the DE out of the play then, which is what the offense wants. How is that going to stop anything? The QB would just hand it off all day and gash the D.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:07 PM   #349
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Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

I'm pretty surprised to hear such simple-minded response from someone like Parcells...or a player like Taylor.

I was expecting them to say things like "teams will look for DEs with speed" or "teams will be using a DB as a spy more often". You know, more football talk rather than a simple/stupid "just hit the QB" answer.
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My question is what was stopping them from doing that this year then?

You can't just give up 15 yard roughing penalties all day.
Exactly.
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I'm pretty surprised to hear such simple-minded response from someone like Parcells...or a player like Taylor.

I was expecting them to say things like "teams will look for DEs with speed" or "teams using a DB as a spy more often". You know, more football talk rather than a simple/stupid "just hit the QB" answer.
I've seen other so called experts saying the same thing. I just keep coming back to so why didn't anyone use this so called tactic this year??
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I've seen other so called experts saying the same thing. I just keep coming back to so why didn't anyone use this so called tactic this year??
Apparently the launch date for stopping the impossible is the 2013 season. They are just hyping it up. Lol.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:22 PM   #353
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I just cant imagine any of the DC's that got burned this year by the read option saying "oh my God I figured it out, next year when teams do that were just going to hit the qb everytime no matter what!"
Its actually absurd.
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You're basically taking the DE out of the play then, which is what the offense wants. How is that going to stop anything? The QB would just hand it off all day and gash the D.
That's true. But we all know how sensitive everyone will be when QB's start getting hit.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:39 PM   #355
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Everyone that runs it has copied the Skins in the fact that they started bringing the h-back round as a lead blocker yet crossing the face of the DE or OLB and continuing on to the second level. Kudos to Kyle on that first id ever seen of its kind.That is an absolute nightmare for a DC to coach that up.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:44 PM   #356
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Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

The read option has been around for many many years. Today it's just run out of a mini shotgun instead of under center. Back when I played it was real simple, the DE was to hit the crap out of the QB as hard as he could so I'm not surprised at what Taylor and Parcells said. Teams are not going to draft smaller faster DE's just to stop a play.
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My question is what was stopping them from doing that this year then?

You can't just give up 15 yard roughing penalties all day.

They actually asked JT that same Q and he said its worth a couple flags to show the QB he won't be running around all day like they did this yr. He actually seemed irritated by the offense .
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Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

If you position a LB, S, or CB to shadow the RB and at the same time have a DE committed to the QB, you can slow down our read option. This theoretically allows you more hits on the QB because the DE doesn't have to think - he just charges. In this way what JT and Parcells said was true. But various circumstances conspire against a defense's ability to pull off this ideal defense.
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If you position a LB, S, or CB to shadow the RB and at the same time have a DE committed to the QB, you can slow down our read option. This theoretically allows you more hits on the QB because the DE doesn't have to think - he just charges. In this way what JT and Parcells said was true. But various circumstances conspire against a defense's ability to pull off this ideal defense.
Ahhh....the perfect world of theoretics. Lol.
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Re: RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

Until RG3 starts getting hit again on the read option or it stops working I say continue using it. As I pointed out before (after being drawn to it by someone on 980) somewhere around week 2 or 3 RG3 started doing the thing where he put his hands up to let defenders know he didn't have the ball and from there on he took very few if any hits on read option plays. All the bad stuff happened on improvised scrambles off traditional drop back and throw passing plays.
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