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Old 01-09-2013, 05:00 PM   #31
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Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.
And Tarkenton played until he was 87 years old, I think.... Let's hope RGIII can do that.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:23 PM   #32
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Browns game they shut down Alfred until Kirk got hot and started connecting on passes; we kept them off balance then everyone was doing good, even Royster. Dallas was so beat up on defense and the also feared RG3 would tear them up again.

You were saying?
yeah, you're right, morris is awful and totally riding RGIII's coat tails. that's the only reason he was the #2 RB this year and #2 in broken tackles... because of RGIII.

seriously, get a life.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:11 PM   #33
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Great post, Summo. I, too, hate seeing a player get hurt, whether they're a Redskin or not. It also makes me sick to see how many people seem to be delighted by RG3's injury. Hey, what can you expect from Cowboys and Giants fans? I just wish they'd move the **** out of DC/MD/VA.
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wait, you're trying to dumb down football so i can understand it?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

what a joke.
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Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.
Fran had neither speed nor a gun for an arm. However he was the most evasive QB ever, and the fact that he could extend plays like crazy made his passing very effective.

Probably the most exciting QB to watch play ever.

So not at all like RG, IMHO. RG has it all...

And Michael Vick doesn't even belong in this conversation.

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:55 AM   #36
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I'll post this in here for Summo's reaction.

Don't blame the player, coach, field or doctors for RGIII's knee injury. A Washington Post "journalist" says he hurt his knee because the team is racist.


What’s in a name? The Redskins’ bad karma - The Washington Post
For this Asshole to suggest that RG3 tore his knee up because of bad karma is a ****ing joke. RG3 didn't name the team, or even pick to play for them. If there is such a thing as karma it wouldn't be bestowed upon him. As far as the team name goes, for selfish reasons I don't want to see it change. I grew up a "Redskins" fan and I hope to die one. I do however feel bad for people who are offended by it and hope there can be some resolution for them if they are sincere. People get too caught up in labels however and if they are truly forward thinkers they wouldn't let it bother them.
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Griffin is more like Fran Tarkenton than Michael Vick.
I can't comment on that comparison since I never seen Tarkenton play. I have seen a million highlights of him in slow motion, but when I was growing up I remember him from "That's Incredible" and not on the filed. Are you even old enough to have seen him play?
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No.

But up until RGIII, he was probably the best passing and running combo QB ever. OK, maybe up until Steve Young, but Fran did it in an era where QBs did not play like that. He was the first real dual-threat QB. QBs in that era were all statues in the pocket. Tark ran for about 300 yards a season and 32 career rushing TDs.


Tobin Rote in the 50s was the first real rushing QB threat, but wasn't the passer that Tarkenton was.

Tobin Rote NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com


Oh...back on track for the thread...you better believe I'm dying a Redskins fan. Even if some PC-assclowns manage to force a name change, I'm still calling the team the Redskins.


Heck, for the same reason, I still like to call the Washington basketball team the Bullets. Wizards is a retarded name...sounds more fitting for some pathetic soccer team.
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For this Asshole to suggest that RG3 tore his knee up because of bad karma is a ****ing joke. RG3 didn't name the team, or even pick to play for them. If there is such a thing as karma it wouldn't be bestowed upon him. As far as the team name goes, for selfish reasons I don't want to see it change. I grew up a "Redskins" fan and I hope to die one. I do however feel bad for people who are offended by it and hope there can be some resolution for them if they are sincere. People get too caught up in labels however and if they are truly forward thinkers they wouldn't let it bother them.
Exactly! And the mayor of D.C. wanting to force the 'skins to change their name if they want to move back to the district is nothing more than a way for him to garner more votes for his reelection, that's it.
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Exactly! And the mayor of D.C. wanting to force the 'skins to change their name if they want to move back to the district is nothing more than a way for him to garner more votes for his reelection, that's it.
I would think, especially after last season's run, that he would garner more votes by putting on the face like, Hey we want them here but Snyder just isn't moving them right now.

The name thing is just a personal axe to grind, and will cost him as many votes as it gets him.

Although in some political circles you must be PC in order to survive the upper level demagoguery.
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I can't comment on that comparison since I never seen Tarkenton play. I have seen a million highlights of him in slow motion, but when I was growing up I remember him from "That's Incredible" and not on the filed. Are you even old enough to have seen him play?
I saw Tarkenton play and think that he is not a bad comparison for Gryphon in terms of style: dangerous and quick legs, ability to extend plays to create big opportunities, a deep ball which is both powerful and accurate, and natural leadership. But Griff is better than Tarkenton.
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Of course he's better in terms of ability. Impossible to compare the eras though.

Fran Tarkenton was born in Richmond if anyone cares.
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Since this is a rant thread, i've got one. Now, i've gone on record as saying i dont think Griffin shouldn't have been playing to begin with the past few weeks because of injury he suffered against Baltimore. My position is, and has been, that if he has to play with a brace, he wasnt healthy enough to play...

My question is this - at what point did we all become a bunch of wusses? (i want to use another word, but i think i'd end up offending someone, disclaimer in the thread title or not). Seriously.

Ronnie Lott - he was going to miss start of the season due to a finger injury, so he told the doctors to cut it off - and they did. We dont criticize him, the coaches, or the doctors, but revere him as one of the greatest safeties of all time.

Brett Farve played through just about every injury possible – and he’s considered a hero for it.

Just days before the 2008 AFC Championship game, Phillip Rivers had surgery on his right knee. His right ACL was TOTALLY GONE during the game (he allegedly tore it in the divisional round the week before), and he had to get another surgery after the game that put him out six months. I don’t recall Rivers or Turner taking the kind of crap RGIII and Shanahan are taking now, in an extremely similar situation, so what gives?

For the past month, Dez Bryant played with a fractured finger that many said should have ended his season, but he played through it and no one questions him or Garrett for doing so.

Romo and vick have both worn kevlar jackets because they were playing with broken ribs and/or punctured lungs. Think about that. punctured freaking lungs.

Earlier this year, Jason Witten played with a freaking lacerated spleen – a potentially life threatening injury – had he suffered further damage during the game, and he’s praised for his toughness. It could have freaking KILLED HIM.

Byron Leftwich played the 2nd half of a game with a broken ankle.
T.O. played in a superbowl with a broken ankle
McNabb played with a broken leg.

All these guys are “tough,” but Shanahan and RGIII are stupid and irresponsible? Why now, all of a sudden, have we turned into a bunch of wusses? Or is it just that we’re whiney little b----es that just like to complain?
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Since this is a rant thread, i've got one. Now, i've gone on record as saying i dont think Griffin shouldn't have been playing to begin with the past few weeks because of injury he suffered against Baltimore. My position is, and has been, that if he has to play with a brace, he wasnt healthy enough to play...

My question is this - at what point did we all become a bunch of wusses? (i want to use another word, but i think i'd end up offending someone, disclaimer in the thread title or not). Seriously.

Ronnie Lott - he was going to miss start of the season due to a finger injury, so he told the doctors to cut it off - and they did. We dont criticize him, the coaches, or the doctors, but revere him as one of the greatest safeties of all time.

Brett Farve played through just about every injury possible – and he’s considered a hero for it.

Just days before the 2008 AFC Championship game, Phillip Rivers had surgery on his right knee. His right ACL was TOTALLY GONE during the game (he allegedly tore it in the divisional round the week before), and he had to get another surgery after the game that put him out six months. I don’t recall Rivers or Turner taking the kind of crap RGIII and Shanahan are taking now, in an extremely similar situation, so what gives?

For the past month, Dez Bryant played with a fractured finger that many said should have ended his season, but he played through it and no one questions him or Garrett for doing so.

Romo and vick have both worn kevlar jackets because they were playing with broken ribs and/or punctured lungs. Think about that. punctured freaking lungs.

Earlier this year, Jason Witten played with a freaking lacerated spleen – a potentially life threatening injury – had he suffered further damage during the game, and he’s praised for his toughness. It could have freaking KILLED HIM.

Byron Leftwich played the 2nd half of a game with a broken ankle.
T.O. played in a superbowl with a broken ankle
McNabb played with a broken leg.

All these guys are “tough,” but Shanahan and RGIII are stupid and irresponsible? Why now, all of a sudden, have we turned into a bunch of wusses? Or is it just that we’re whiney little b----es that just like to complain?
And didn't T.O. play on a broken foot or something in the Super Bowl? I thought that RG3 should have sat the Philly game as well and came back for Dallas, would that have made a difference? Who knows.
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I would think, especially after last season's run, that he would garner more votes by putting on the face like, Hey we want them here but Snyder just isn't moving them right now.

The name thing is just a personal axe to grind, and will cost him as many votes as it gets him.

Although in some political circles you must be PC in order to survive the upper level demagoguery.
I also see it as a personal axe to grind as well, which is why I hope Snyder decides to either leave the 'skins in Maryland, or move them completely into VA. And like you said, I think it will eventually cost him votes.
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