To Read Option, or Not

Lotus · 01-10-2013, 10:03 AM

Absolutely read option. Kyle should spend the next few months evaluating his offense to add new wrinkles, making it version 2.0. Keep both the pistol and the read option but don't stand pat in terms of scheme.

Dirtbag59 · 01-10-2013, 10:49 AM

Ironically the thread title should be to dropback pass or not. After like the 2nd or 3rd week RG3 never took a big hit on a read option play. The only time he took big shots was on traditional passing plays where he scrambled. Most notably the Ngata hit and the Weatherspoon hit. In fact the read option ended up being our safest direct play for RG3.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-10-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by donofriose

Should not be a staple of the offense, but would be a good play to use on 2nd on 4 or short 2nd downs. Obviously the less hits Griffin takes the better. In my opinion he should only keep it if there is a wide open field and the DE crashes down, otherwise if its a staple of the offense teams will just start going right after griffin and making sure to hit him, even if it costs them a flag every once in a while, similar to what the Patriots did to Tebow when they tried to do it against the Pats. The Patriots just sent a DE only responsible for Tebow and every time he handed it off right away he would be hit.

Your first sentence conflicts with your second. RGIII is more likely to take big hits on drop back passing situations than he is running the option from the pistol. The threat of both he and Morris running, along with Griffins ability to sell the fake handoff, creates a momentary hesitation in defenders, buying him more time to get rid of the ball (avoid tacklers) than he'd have in a pure dropback pass situation. If you want RGIII to take less hits, you want him to run the option more, not less.

The read option is also the #1 reason why Morris gets so many yards on running plays, creating more 2nd and 3rd and short. Its all about the THREAT of RGIII running.

skinsfan69 · 01-10-2013, 01:47 PM

Keep running it. It would be stupid not to run it. However I would like to see more 4-5 wr sets and a no huddle offense. He did those things so well at Baylor.

los panda · 01-10-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Keep running it. It would be stupid not to run it. However I would like to see more 4-5 wr sets and a no huddle offense. He did those things so well at Baylor.

double dog dare defenses to blitz

SouperMeister · 01-10-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by los panda

double dog dare defenses to blitz

Let's go for the breach of etiquette, and straight to the triple dog dare

Evilgrin · 01-10-2013, 04:17 PM

We saw it so much less in the second half, before he got hurt. Russel Wilson ran it 3 times I think? I don't think we use it much more then that.

SouperMeister · 01-10-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

We saw it so much less in the second half, before he got hurt. Russel Wilson ran it 3 times I think? I don't think we use it much more then that.

That's because he was hurt 2 plays before the 2nd Skins TD in the first quarter. Griffin was essentially dragging his leg the rest of the game.

Evilgrin · 01-10-2013, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

That's because he was hurt 2 plays before the 2nd Skins TD in the first quarter. Griffin was essentially dragging his leg the rest of the game.

Sorry second half of the season, he averages about 8 run attempts per game. Figure maybe half of those are designed option runs, with the other half being scrambles.

REDSKINS4ever · 01-10-2013, 04:44 PM

The read option should continue to be valuable play in the Redskins scheme of things. I say we should keep it. Because it was from a college football playbook, I was surprised how NFL defenses had all types of problems stopping the read option all season long. Will there ever come a time when RG3 will run the tradition Shanahan modified West Coast Offense? Probably so...but until then the coaches should continue to implement what's been working.

budw38 · 01-10-2013, 07:13 PM

For what it's worth , we ran the ball very well at the end of 2011 , with Rex @ qb , the left side of our line out TW/KL , no F. Davis , with Royster @ rb. I think we should continue to use what worked in '12 , maybe run some miss-direction .... Houston Oilers w/ E. Campbell , and maybe some strech plays , Manning / Indy ? We have plenty of talent at our skill postions . Hope one of the youngsters on the OL can step up .

GoSkins! · 01-10-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Ironically the thread title should be to dropback pass or not. After like the 2nd or 3rd week RG3 never took a big hit on a read option play. The only time he took big shots was on traditional passing plays where he scrambled. Most notably the Ngata hit and the Weatherspoon hit. In fact the read option ended up being our safest direct play for RG3.

Agreed. He just needs to learn to slide or dive forward on the scrambles. He seems to take awkward angles, like sliding sideways, when it isn't a planned run. We are talking about him getting to the ground differently for about 10 plays all year. He gets those right, he can have a long career playing the same game he did this year.

SouperMeister · 01-12-2013, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

Agreed. He just needs to learn to slide or dive forward on the scrambles. He seems to take awkward angles, like sliding sideways, when it isn't a planned run. We are talking about him getting to the ground differently for about 10 plays all year. He gets those right, he can have a long career playing the same game he did this year.

If there is one thing that I wish Griffin did as well as Russell Wilson, it would be to protect himself while still getting positive yards with his legs. Wilson was a professional baseball player, so sliding to him is much more second nature than it is to Griffin.

Counter-Tre · 01-12-2013, 02:50 AM

Keep the play, replace the field.

REDSKINS4ever · 01-13-2013, 07:49 PM

Rg3 has to have learned. When a 350 pound NT crashes into your leg and kills your knee, then you begin to think of what can be done differently. Diving, sliding, and running out of bounds should be his focus when he's running out there with the pigskin.

01-10-2013, 10:03 AM	#16
Lotus Mann Up HOF! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 8,906	Re: To Read Option, or Not Absolutely read option. Kyle should spend the next few months evaluating his offense to add new wrinkles, making it version 2.0. Keep both the pistol and the read option but don't stand pat in terms of scheme. __________________ Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

01-10-2013, 10:49 AM	#17
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,957	Re: To Read Option, or Not Ironically the thread title should be to dropback pass or not. After like the 2nd or 3rd week RG3 never took a big hit on a read option play. The only time he took big shots was on traditional passing plays where he scrambled. Most notably the Ngata hit and the Weatherspoon hit. In fact the read option ended up being our safest direct play for RG3. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

01-10-2013, 01:47 PM	#19
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: To Read Option, or Not Keep running it. It would be stupid not to run it. However I would like to see more 4-5 wr sets and a no huddle offense. He did those things so well at Baylor.

01-10-2013, 04:17 PM	#22
Evilgrin Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 464	Re: To Read Option, or Not We saw it so much less in the second half, before he got hurt. Russel Wilson ran it 3 times I think? I don't think we use it much more then that. __________________ Mike Shanahan visited Madame Tussauds yesterday, he tried to recruit a couple wax figures for the skins? They seemed fine to him, just quiet.

01-10-2013, 04:44 PM	#25
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: To Read Option, or Not The read option should continue to be valuable play in the Redskins scheme of things. I say we should keep it. Because it was from a college football playbook, I was surprised how NFL defenses had all types of problems stopping the read option all season long. Will there ever come a time when RG3 will run the tradition Shanahan modified West Coast Offense? Probably so...but until then the coaches should continue to implement what's been working. __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

01-10-2013, 07:13 PM	#26
budw38 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern,Va. Posts: 2,126	Re: To Read Option, or Not For what it's worth , we ran the ball very well at the end of 2011 , with Rex @ qb , the left side of our line out TW/KL , no F. Davis , with Royster @ rb. I think we should continue to use what worked in '12 , maybe run some miss-direction .... Houston Oilers w/ E. Campbell , and maybe some strech plays , Manning / Indy ? We have plenty of talent at our skill postions . Hope one of the youngsters on the OL can step up .

01-12-2013, 02:50 AM	#29
Counter-Tre Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Venice Beach, CA Age: 40 Posts: 278	Re: To Read Option, or Not Keep the play, replace the field.

01-13-2013, 07:49 PM	#30
REDSKINS4ever The Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Born and raised in D.C. and now lives in Harlem, New York Posts: 2,030	Re: To Read Option, or Not Rg3 has to have learned. When a 350 pound NT crashes into your leg and kills your knee, then you begin to think of what can be done differently. Diving, sliding, and running out of bounds should be his focus when he's running out there with the pigskin. __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

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