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Old 01-27-2013, 10:42 AM   #106
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Amazing that some still think we're getting that $$ back. Or that Snyder is calling any shots.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:14 PM   #107
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Amazing that some still think we're getting that $$ back. Or that Snyder is calling any shots.
Well we're probably not getting the $$ back at least...
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:37 PM   #108
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Amazing that some still think we're getting that $$ back. Or that Snyder is calling any shots.
Isn't it understandable that people think Snyder still calls shots, after we found out he wasn't hands-off when Gibbs was here?


Cerrato: "No matter what anyone from the outside thinks, everybody has always had input in the decisions," he said. "Everybody has always had a say, and that's not changing. Before, it was Joe and I walking down the hall to talk to Dan about what our game plan was. Now, it'll be Jim and I walking down the hall to talk to Dan about the game plan."


So, at the risk of being obsessed, let me point out that during the Gibbs Era, there was no meddling and nobody talked to Dan Snyder about football and all he did was sign the checks, and also the draft strategy was based on his philosophy and he was instrumental in shaping the teamís free agency approach and he met with draft prospects and watched their workouts. Got it.

I hope Snyder really is hands off now, but that might depend on what the definition of "hands off" means.

Matty, how much distance does a typical "hands-off" NFL owner put between himself and the day-to-day football-side of management?
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Isn't it understandable that people think Snyder still calls shots, after we found out he wasn't hands-off when Gibbs was here?


Cerrato: "No matter what anyone from the outside thinks, everybody has always had input in the decisions," he said. "Everybody has always had a say, and that's not changing. Before, it was Joe and I walking down the hall to talk to Dan about what our game plan was. Now, it'll be Jim and I walking down the hall to talk to Dan about the game plan."


So, at the risk of being obsessed, let me point out that during the Gibbs Era, there was no meddling and nobody talked to Dan Snyder about football and all he did was sign the checks, and also the draft strategy was based on his philosophy and he was instrumental in shaping the teamís free agency approach and he met with draft prospects and watched their workouts. Got it.

I hope Snyder really is hands off now, but that might depend on what the definition of "hands off" means.

Matty, how much distance does a typical "hands-off" NFL owner put between himself and the day-to-day football-side of management?
Owners have the final say and thats the only one that matters.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:55 PM   #110
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Owners have the final say and thats the only one that matters.
I think so too. There just seems to me a vast gulf between the articles I quoted, and what smootsmack said in his awesome "understanding the scouting process" thread. I believe SS, and really hope Snyder's changed that much in all areas of the "football side" of club operations. But I heard the same "Snyder's changed" mantra when Gibbs was here too, when in hindsight he hadn't changed. And I wonder now how owners thought of as "hands off" really do a lot more than just "sign checks".
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:20 PM   #111
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Every owner has final say, even those like Paul Allen who are so out of touch with what's going on with their team. Sometimes the final say is "it's your decision" but it's still their call.

It is Snyder's team but no he's not intrusive in his involvement. Allen and Shanahan are the day to day bosses
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No, lets trade him for a 4th rounder and a conditional 7th.

But seriously,

Brian Orakpo
Ryan Kerrigan
Stephen Bowen
Jarvis Jenkins
Aqib Talib
Tyrann Mathieu
Phillip Thomas/David Amerson/Xavier Rhodes/Baccari Rambo

If we can get Ray Ray Armstrong as a 5th or 6th rounder that is just gravy.

That is a good core for a defense to me
Three cheers for Ray Ray. Hope he is on the radar. Complete steel as a fifth rounder and beyond.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:00 PM   #113
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Amazing that some still think we're getting that $$ back. Or that Snyder is calling any shots.
The jury is still out. But if the Redskins can get some of that money back, it would be excellent. But like you I doubt if they will be able to.
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can anybody tell me about how much under the cap we are?are ever getting the money back?,i was thinking about trying to get revis but at what price .
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can anybody tell me about how much under the cap we are?are ever getting the money back?,i was thinking about trying to get revis but at what price .
No we are never getting the money back.
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For emphasis since some just are not getting it:

WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY OF THE CAP PENALTY BACK. NOT NOW. NOT EVER. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

YES. IT WAS UNFAIR. YES. IT WAS PROBABLY A VIOLATION OF THE PRIOR CBA AND EVIDENCE OF COLLUSIVE BEHAVIOR BY THE NFL OWNERS. NO - THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

SOMETIMES BAD THINGS HAPPEN AND THERE IS NO REMEDY. SUCK IT UP AND MOVE ON.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #117
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For those of you who understood the above, I apologize for yelling - internet style.

Waiting for punch's post: "So, I get it, but does that mean we will never get the cap space back?"
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:53 AM   #118
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yeah, and once again, no to revis. he wants TONS of money, that's why the jets are letting him go. we don't have tons of money and don't need someone that's going to spend all of his time arguing about how his contract isn't big enough.

I expect a FA period full of 2nd tier signings. we'll get one of the top 4 TEs, a good DB of some kind and maybe 1 of the two or so reasonable RT upgrades or a 2nd DB. everyone else is either going to be a project, a diamond in the rough, or an average/replaceable player unless we can convince someone good to take a cheap one year deal.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:05 PM   #119
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Re: Darrelle Revis is up for trade per Jets owner

Here is my question on Darrelle Revis..... could he not be another big money FA like Deion Sanders was when he came here like 10 years ago? You know, the guys the Redskins use to sign for too much money that never produced or always got hurt? I say let someone else have Revis.
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Hmmm, things being discussed ad nauseum: Free agents we aren't going to sign, draft trades we're not going to make, imaginary girl friends and puppies.

Welcome to the offseason!
Hey hey hey leave the puppies out of it. Besides you posted the most heart felt comment in the puppy thread. You probably should have stretched your thoughts out though its only January.
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