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Old 01-28-2013, 05:58 PM   #31
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Re: A question for all Redskins fans.....

Griffin isn't a glass doll, I'd wager good money he lasts more than 5 years.

In fact can anyone name a starting QB in the last 25 years that had a career of 5 years or less due to injury?
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:01 PM   #32
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I am new to the forum and as you know i am not allowed to start a new thread or i would. I have been a skins fan since 1985 (5 years old) I feel the Redskins were playing better football this year than i have seen in years. IMO Cousins should have came in as soon as we could ALL see how bad RG3 was hurt. I am really hoping that decision doesn't come back and bite us in the ass. Of course we have to address the secondary. There has been another thing really bothering me. I hope it doesn't become a huge distraction, and i don't know how you guys feel on the issue but....2 years ago i started a Facebook page "Do NOT change the Redskins name" I haven't given it much thought and haven't really touched the page again until last week. When the issue suddenly took off again. I would much rather hear what actual Redskins fans have to say on the issue rather than the liberals i have been arguing with for a week. If you are a liberal that's fine too. At least you are a Redskins/football fan. You don't even have to like the page (I could care less about likes) just come get in on the conversation. There are very few people. I feel like this is an issue that needs to spread around Redskins nation like wildfire. I'm really not trying to deal with this during the season. Would like to get going now so we know exactly what it is we are up against. I am not a racist person at all but the consensus thus far seems to be that anyone that does not want to change the name is a white racist and i just don't believe this to be true. So check out ...Do NOT change the Redskins name on Facebook and make your voice heard. Thanks for taking the time to read all of that...
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:21 PM   #33
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Griffin isn't a glass doll, I'd wager good money he lasts more than 5 years.

In fact can anyone name a starting QB in the last 25 years that had a career of 5 years or less due to injury?
Ryan Leaf. His hurt butt forced his early retirement.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:29 PM   #34
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Not really, I believe both QB's are capable and can run the offense effectively without the help of the coaches babying. I just believe Cousins has the ability to last the whole season where RG3 can't.


If you want to hang onto RG3 after what you have seen this season thats fine, I'll save myself the disappointment. Its not just the Knee injury but the concussion as well. The guy is just not gonna last IMO. I wish I was wrong, but Im not.

In any case my original point was the Redskins can win with either QB.
I would argue the opposite. We know what we can get from a season of Gryphon.

While Cousins played well during his chances, there have been many QB's who had a good game or two but then had mediocre seasons or even careers. All we know about Cousins is from a few games. We still have no idea what he is like over a full season.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:44 PM   #35
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Cunningham and Young were much larger/stouter athletes.


Randall Cunningham - 6'4" 215lbs.

Steve Young - 6'2" 215lbs.

Robert Griffin III- 6'2" 217lbs.




Much larger/stouter? Am I missing something here?
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:50 PM   #36
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Re: A question for all Redskins fans.....

If Griffin only misses a couple games next season, 11-5. If he misses half the season, 8-8.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:56 PM   #37
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Why?
I think our OL has really gotten the ZBS down pat, so our run game will be at least as strong as this season. Moss is still strong and our young WRs should start "getting it" next season.

Our D, I have little faith in. But I think Griffin is going to get everybody fired up with his performance. I don't expect to go 7-0 to start next season, I expect us to lose a bad game or two. But if Griffin is anywhere near 100% whenever he sees the field, we will be a beast of a team.

edit: Just notice you highlighted my 8-8 guess if Griffin misses half the season. I think this team is good enough to break even without a 100% RG3. I also think there's a bigger difference between 11-5 and 8-8 than just getting lucky 3 more games. Griffin turns next year's team from average to superbowl contender if he can get healthy this offseason and stay that way.

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Old 01-28-2013, 07:57 PM   #38
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Re: A question for all Redskins fans.....

Cousins had a great start against Cleveland but I want to see more before I'm all in with him. Until we see that he's a legit QB I believe the more games RG3 plays the better off we are.
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Cousins had a great start against Cleveland but I want to see more before I'm all in with him. Until we see that he's a legit QB I believe the more games RG3 plays the better off we are.
He looked really good but it was against a horrible browns team, I know they r better but it's still Cleveland. Against Atlanta he played poorly but it wasn't a great situation for him.
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Griffin isn't a glass doll, I'd wager good money he lasts more than 5 years.

In fact can anyone name a starting QB in the last 25 years that had a career of 5 years or less due to injury?
Can anybody name a QB from the last 25 years who ran more than RG in a single season? Name an offense more dependent on the QB (specifically) running the ball to be successful? Name one who suffered a concussion and a blown knee in his rookie season?

Seems like we're in new territory on several fronts, and they're not all good (already).

But seriously, I hope this is a moot point. Improve the offense (to protect your franchise QB), improve the pass protection, and teach RG to slide and get out of bounce. We see examples of it across the league. Just do it.
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Can anybody name a QB from the last 25 years who ran more than RG in a single season?
You really need to try a little harder.

Griffin ran 120 times this year.

Newton ran 127 times this year and 126 times last year.

Vick ran 120 times in 2004 and 123 times in 2006.

Tebow ran it 122 times in 2011.

I'm sure there are others.
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No one could have envisioned a 350 pound NT slamming into RG3's leg, which was the root of his knee injury. Anyone who has seen that high light knows that was a freak accident. But it happened and that play alone has a lot to do with why RG3 had surgery on his knee. I'm willing to bet RG3 will dive on those runs from now on and get down on the turf....
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I keep hearing how defensive coordinators will figure out how to defense our scheme in the off season and how that will be a negative for our prospects in 2013.

I submit that our offensive gurus will not be resting on their laurels and will develop schemes the other guys haven't seen yet. So I don't buy the gloom and doom of our offense being "figured out" somehow. I think by the end of next season teams will be trying to copy our defense once again, la DirtyBirds and 49ers, and we will continue to be in the driver's seat.

With the Wilson/Kapernick adulation the media seem to have put us on the back burner. I say good -- we'll be on their front burner again soon enough... It's amazing to think that we were but one Ngata hit away from making it to the Super Bowl. Good times are here to stay!

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I hope you're right; the NFL is a chess game and can be very back and forth. And I have confidence in our coaches to keep up with design, but the competition out there is stiff.

There are other elements to consider of course: how much more conservative with the Shanny's be considering the fear of another RGIII injury? On the other hand, how much of the playbook did they not open up last year because he was a rookie? It really could go either way. I'm not predicting that opposing defenses will figure out ways to limit our offense, but is a concern.
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No one could have envisioned a 350 pound NT slamming into RG3's leg, which was the root of his knee injury. Anyone who has seen that high light knows that was a freak accident. But it happened and that play alone has a lot to do with why RG3 had surgery on his knee. I'm willing to bet RG3 will dive on those runs from now on and get down on the turf....
And pretty far (I think 10 yards) down field! Why is a NT there?
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Griffin isn't a glass doll, I'd wager good money he lasts more than 5 years.

In fact can anyone name a starting QB in the last 25 years that had a career of 5 years or less due to injury?

Agreed. Look, this is an anecdotal observation with practically zero medical support, but I'll say it anyway: I think the initial hit Griffin took to his knee is, if anything, an indication that the man is NOT injury prone. There are some players who can't avoid a knee injury stepping out of bed (Brandon Merriweather, for example). Some players just break easily. The hit Griffin took was nasty and bent his knee something awful, yet the initial injury could have been a lot worse. I think in a lot of guys that would have been a much more significant injury. Of course, as I said, that's with very little medical knowledge on my behalf. But I'm just saying, I think he's resilient.
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