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Old 01-31-2013, 12:39 PM   #136
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How so if there are numerous examples of homosexual behavior in the animal world?
I knew that would elicit some type of counter-argument or question. I believe sexual activity is nature's tool meant to do one thing: procreate. So when I saw "nature" that is the context of my statement. But I don't believe anyone/thing is bound by the law of nature to obey this nor do I think anyone/thing is bound by any responsibility to adhere and procreate. Hey...do what you want...doesn't affect me. Like Louie CK says..."it's not like people are gay AT you". I could not care less is people are gay and I DO care greatly that there seems to be a curiously accepted line of thinking that it should be OK for football locker rooms to discriminate. At one point in time, not too long ago, it was "normal" to not want black athletes in the same locker room. Just because it was normal doesn't mean it was right.
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Parks 'n Rec is a great show. Also this thread has completely gone off topic from the NFL
Yep, I think it has petered out.
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I hate that argument. It seems to be equating actual human beings with animals.

Animals will act like animals. If they want sex, they'll take it where they can find it. This is why your dog humps your leg.

I'm not a fan of the choice of homosexuality by any means, but don't degrade them by comparing them to animals who don't have the brain capacity to make decisions like humans, they act on instincts.

You're not going to see flamboyant frogs or crossdressing crocodiles in nature. Many gays do choose to have a different lifestyle in terms of sex, they way they dress, behave, and generally live life. But, unlike the animals you cite, they have the brain capacity to know what they're doing.
Newsflash...we're all animals. Humans may have rational thinking but we're all essentially just trying to survive. Humans just are more able to comfortably survive because of our enhanced intelligence.
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I hate that argument. It seems to be equating actual human beings with animals.

Animals will act like animals. If they want sex, they'll take it where they can find it. This is why your dog humps your leg.

I'm not a fan of the choice of homosexuality by any means, but don't degrade them by comparing them to animals who don't have the brain capacity to make decisions like humans, they act on instincts.

You're not going to see flamboyant frogs or crossdressing crocodiles in nature. Many gays do choose to have a different lifestyle in terms of sex, they way they dress, behave, and generally live life. But, unlike the animals you cite, they have the brain capacity to know what they're doing.
I think it's a valid point, how can something be considered unnatural if it's prevelant behavior in nature itself? Relax, I'm not comparing people to animals, I'm just addressing the so called natural aspect of it.
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I hate that argument. It seems to be equating actual human beings with animals.

Animals will act like animals. If they want sex, they'll take it where they can find it. This is why your dog humps your leg.

I'm not a fan of the choice of homosexuality by any means, but don't degrade them by comparing them to animals who don't have the brain capacity to make decisions like humans, they act on instincts.

You're not going to see flamboyant frogs or crossdressing crocodiles in nature. Many gays do choose to have a different lifestyle in terms of sex, they way they dress, behave, and generally live life. But, unlike the animals you cite, they have the brain capacity to know what they're doing.
People are animals... in fact in my opinion people are often worst than animals. I know plenty of people that act like "animals" when it comes to sex and will hump anything that moves. People aren't that much better than animals.
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I think it's a valid point, how can something be considered unnatural if it's prevelant behavior in nature itself? Relax, I'm not comparing people to animals, I'm just addressing the so called natural aspect of it.
What's prevalent is heterosexuality not vice-versa. But it does exist.
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I knew that would elicit some type of counter-argument or question. I believe sexual activity is nature's tool meant to do one thing: procreate. So when I saw "nature" that is the context of my statement. But I don't believe anyone/thing is bound by the law of nature to obey this nor do I think anyone/thing is bound by any responsibility to adhere and procreate. Hey...do what you want...doesn't affect me. Like Louie CK says..."it's not like people are gay AT you". I could not care less is people are gay and I DO care greatly that there seems to be a curiously accepted line of thinking that it should be OK for football locker rooms to discriminate. At one point in time, not too long ago, it was "normal" to not want black athletes in the same locker room. Just because it was normal doesn't mean it was right.
Ok, I see what you're saying now. Agree with the rest of your post as well.
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I actually think what I'll graciously call "counter-arguments" in this thread have been addressed enough. Time for this baby to die a thread death.
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I hate that argument. It seems to be equating actual human beings with animals.

Animals will act like animals. If they want sex, they'll take it where they can find it. This is why your dog humps your leg.

I'm not a fan of the choice of homosexuality by any means, but don't degrade them by comparing them to animals who don't have the brain capacity to make decisions like humans, they act on instincts.

You're not going to see flamboyant frogs or crossdressing crocodiles in nature. Many gays do choose to have a different lifestyle in terms of sex, they way they dress, behave, and generally live life. But, unlike the animals you cite, they have the brain capacity to know what they're doing.

Its funny you guys are talkig about animals and you go by "Monkeydad".
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I mean it's like people never watched the Parks 'n Rec episode where the penguins got married
lol, thats where this thread has gone?


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I hate that argument. It seems to be equating actual human beings with animals.

Animals will act like animals. If they want sex, they'll take it where they can find it. This is why your dog humps your leg.

I'm not a fan of the choice of homosexuality by any means, but don't degrade them by comparing them to animals who don't have the brain capacity to make decisions like humans, they act on instincts.

You're not going to see flamboyant frogs or crossdressing crocodiles in nature. Many gays do choose to have a different lifestyle in terms of sex, they way they dress, behave, and generally live life. But, unlike the animals you cite, they have the brain capacity to know what they're doing.
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If a peacock was gay, could you tell?
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I actually think what I'll graciously call "counter-arguments" in this thread have been addressed enough. Time for this baby to die a thread death.
I don't think the point of thread, at least in my mind, was about pros and cons, or any particular argument, but just to get it out in the open. Just a discussion for people to say how they "feel".
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Newsflash...we're all animals. Humans may have rational thinking but we're all essentially just trying to survive. Humans just are more able to comfortably survive because of our enhanced intelligence.
Some animals eat ther partner after intercourse but I find that rather nasty.
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As Matty said...


List of animals displaying homosexual behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It's not just unique to our species.
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