Gays in the NFL. How Do You Really Feel?

Evilgrin

Lockerroom/shower thing is kinda silly for any of us that go to a gym.

Anyways, why isn't Jerry Smith in the HoF?

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Mike Shanahan visited Madame Tussauds yesterday, he tried to recruit a couple wax figures for the skins? They seemed fine to him, just quiet.

Lotus

This.

Gay folks are already in the locker room, so the question isn't whether or not they can be there. The question is whether they can come out or whether they must be secretive. And that shouldn't be a difficult question.

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Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.

JoeRedskin

B/c he was caught staring at Goodell's junk in the shower.

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JoeRedskin

... still think hell doesn't exist?

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My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

BigHairedAristocrat

homophobic is a term i've never understood. i dont think many people are actually "afraid" of gay people. some people have religious beliefs which teach homosexuality is a sin. Some people have a hatred for homosexuals. some people are outspoken of this hatred and act on it in deplorable ways, including using violence. but few people are actually "afraid" of gay people. If there are people who are generally afraid of gay people, then "homophobic" would apply to them, but its one of those words that bothers me because its broadly misused. that said, in the sense you used it, you were referring to people to whom the term would apply. Just wanted to throw that out there.

regarding the NFL, i expressed this in the Te'o thread, but i would be afraid for an openly gay player in the NFL. His teammates could discriminate against him. If oppenents knew it, they'd almost certainly use that on the field to trash talk the player, no doubt using alot of gay slurs. I think that would be grounds for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, which would detract from the game.

Ultimately, I'd prefer not to know anything about a player's sex life and watch them play football.

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skinsfaninok

Dude is looking like a fool now saying "that's not in my heart " and " I'm sorry I didn't mean it " lol whatever dude be a man and admit what u said was how u feel

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mredskins

I have no problem with gays and believe they are entitled to everything heterosexuals have.

But it personally brothers me when they are next to me in the locker room. Sorry if that hurts someone's feelings. I also don't like vanilla ice cream. Who am I hurting or limiting their rights by saying I don't like standing next to a gay man in a locker room?

There is a reason why they have a men's locker room and a women's locker room.

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BigHairedAristocrat

Your statements are false. By definition, "normal" means "conforming to the standard or common typle." homosexuality is abnormal, because it does not conform to the standard. vegetarianism is also not normal (in the united states). Both are abnormal, by definition.

You mention physiology, which i find funny, because homosexuality is very unusual and a mystery of evolutionary theory.

However, just because something is abnormal, doesnt mean we should hate it/not tolerate it/discriminate against it in. This socieity would fall apart if we discriminated against people just for being abnormal. In fact, i'm pretty sure most of us have some quirk about our physical appearance, emotional makeup, religion, values, preferences, tastes, etc. that make us abnormal.

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Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

BigHairedAristocrat

So are you proposing that a gay man use the womens locker room? Because i'm sure that would make both the gay man, and the majority of women, uncomfortable. I'm also pretty sure that most NFL stadiums dont have women's lockerrooms.

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Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

CRedskinsRule

I thought the issue was free speech, wait or was it morality, now it's just who's checking out whose stuff???

Isn't that like Jr. High (middle school now i guess) garbage.

I do suppose now might not be the best time for a


Like most of american societal morass, it'll all be folded into some politically correct non-offending (except to those who are offended) viewpoint which will move the dialogue forward to the same point it was at a week ago, which is to say a never ending circular debate that neither persuades nor dissuades one from the certainty of their viewpoint and the wrongness of the opposition.

maybe it's time for this one to move on over to the debating with the enemies thread.

mredskins

For me it is no bigger issue then that. I accept homosexuality.


For you it doesn't bother you that is fine but at some point you have a line in the sand too where it will bother you. Would you share a bed with a gay man? A tent? Kiss him on the cheeck good bye? ETC... Everyone has their own tolerances.

Also let me be clear too even though it bothers me to have a gay man in the locker room with me I don't believe he should not be allowed in there just because it bothers me. It was my choice to use a public locker room.

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JoeRedskin

Damn well said.

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ashvirtually

Nothing happened to his right to free speech. What are you talking about?

He's free to say whatever idiotic things he wants to say, and others are free to point out what out what a jackass he is for saying them. That's free speech in action.

And considering the ratio of homosexuals in society, it's a given that every single player in the NFL has been in the locker room buck naked with a gay or bi or curious dude at least once.

Culliver needs to get a grip, and so does any dude who is bothered by the sexuality of another dude. Just because someone is attracted to men, doesn't mean they give a damn about eyeing me or is attracted to me. I'm not attracted to every woman I see, clothed or not.

See how it works?