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NC_Skins · 02-19-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Recovering from a 2nd knee reconstruction with an entire season in front of him is a different story, I think he's going to approach it a bit more wisely.

I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Have to learn your limitations somehow. Give the guy a break. This was his first season in the NFL. I believe he now understands what he can and can not do with regards to sacrificing his body. His knee is a result of what he can learn from. I think he will be much smarter with a season under his belt this year.

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.

Mattyk · 02-19-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I hope for our sakes you are right. I personally don't trust the kid when it comes to his own health. I think he still feels he has to prove how "tough" he is, and that he'll readily rush out before being truly ready. You can't trust him, not after that fiasco. I have a feeling Shanny doesn't trust him either concerning his own health.

I'll give the guy a break when he proves it, until then I'm going on by his actions so far. We can hope he's smarter than what he showed last year, but the proof is in the pudding. I'll remain skeptical until I see otherwise.

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 02-19-2013, 08:50 PM

Good point Matty.

It all falls back to the mentality of football and of the football player. The coach is responsible for removing player x, but at what point? Hindsight is 20/20. If he miraculously led us back in that game at the end and afterwards we were told he won the game with torn knee ligaments he would be even more of an icon. QBs have done it before.

NC_Skins · 02-19-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

He's not any different, and I never said I blame him. He's doing exactly what I would have done. I said I don't trust him concerning health issues.

CultBrennan59 · 02-19-2013, 09:07 PM

Keep in mind people that RG did this recent commercial for money, not to prove a point. Derrick Rose did the same thing, he was trying to sell stuff for Adidas. Samething for RG3 I know his ego and image is big, but he's a smart kid who knows that his 10+ year career of making money will end before year 5 if he rushes his major surgery and gets hurt again. I agree to an extent with NC Skins about RG trying to prove his toughness, but I also think his dad, his coach, his owner, his teammates, agent, girlfriend, Adidas, Gatorade, and so on are saying dont rush it.

Alvin Walton · 02-20-2013, 09:28 AM

Chicks with kicks.

Female kicker will compete at regional combine for first time

SkinzWin · 02-20-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure he's any different than the of any of the greats that have played the game. Ask any Hall of Famer and they'd all probably say they wouldn't leave the field even when hurt. Remember Favre against the Saints a couple years ago in the playoffs? The guy was so bruised up afterwards he looked like he was in a car wreck. Can anyone imagine Favre saying that's it, I had enough and pulling himself out of the game? I don't think so.

I think the big difference between older, HOF quarterbacks and Griffin is mobility. Favre was not a huge run threat like Griffin was. If he got hit and bruised it was in the pocket. With Griffin on the run it lends him to put himself in more vulnerable positions to get himself injured. Favre can flop in the pocket and get hit easier than Griffin can on the run in a full sprint.

The issue here is Griffin running and going for that little bit extra instead of sliding and being protected from hits because of rules against hitting sliding quarterbacks. If Griffin would have slid instead of getting lit up by Haloti Ngata, his knee may never have been an issue. He just has to make better decisions finishing runs. If his tweet about not jeopardizing his career is serious, he needs to start with finishing runs smarter.

RGIII · 02-20-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Chicks with kicks.

Female kicker will compete at regional combine for first time

I hope it's not just to say, "I did it". Do it because you want to play and you're good at it.

CultBrennan59 · 02-20-2013, 11:14 AM

Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk

skinsfan69 · 02-20-2013, 12:08 PM

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Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk

When does anyone say the player is behind schdeule? lol. Hope we get a long term deal done w/ Davis. I'd like to see this offense with everyone healthy and ready to go come Sept. I'd also like to see Robinson become a consistent complete wr. He's got the tools and he's got the speed. Hopefully he can take his game up a notch.

RedskinsInNYC · 02-20-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk

Does anyone really think "a source" is not Fred's agent?

donofriose · 02-20-2013, 01:13 PM

Doug Williams on TV, he got a little heavy...

NC_Skins · 02-20-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab | ProFootballTalk

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

When does anyone say the player is behind schdeule? lol.

The first comment at the bottom of the article sums it up pretty much.

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All surgeries are successful … everyone’s rehab is ahead of schedule … every player is going to come back 100%.

Most of the time, it's just a load of smoke being blown up our asses. PR talk.

Ruhskins · 02-20-2013, 05:00 PM

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Guys I've heard critique the new rules....Deion Sanders, Warren Sapp, Rod Woodson, Tom Jackson, Lavar Arrington, Brian Mitchell, Darren Sharper and a wr from GB James Jones...to name a few. I could go on and on. None have lawsuits against the NFL.

I'm sure Junior Seau, Ray Easterling, and Dave Duerson would beg to differ.

skinsfaninok · 02-20-2013, 08:10 PM

No shocker but ESPN hires ray Lewis

02-19-2013, 08:50 PM	#303
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,906	Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style. Good point Matty. It all falls back to the mentality of football and of the football player. The coach is responsible for removing player x, but at what point? Hindsight is 20/20. If he miraculously led us back in that game at the end and afterwards we were told he won the game with torn knee ligaments he would be even more of an icon. QBs have done it before. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

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CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,579	Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style. Keep in mind people that RG did this recent commercial for money, not to prove a point. Derrick Rose did the same thing, he was trying to sell stuff for Adidas. Samething for RG3 I know his ego and image is big, but he's a smart kid who knows that his 10+ year career of making money will end before year 5 if he rushes his major surgery and gets hurt again. I agree to an extent with NC Skins about RG trying to prove his toughness, but I also think his dad, his coach, his owner, his teammates, agent, girlfriend, Adidas, Gatorade, and so on are saying dont rush it. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

02-20-2013, 09:28 AM	#306
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02-20-2013, 11:14 AM	#309
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,579	Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style. Report: Fred Davis ahead of schedule in Achilles rehab \| ProFootballTalk __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

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