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SkinzWin · 02-24-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Jones doesn't follow advise.

He follows the voices in his head.

SCRedskinsFan · 02-24-2013, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I did. I played football for 10 years. I was a quarterback and three year starter in high school on a Maryland State A champinship team. We ran the exact same offense that Don Coryell did. Never had a play book but ran 60 or so plays from that offense. This was 25 years ago. Did not play in college cause my grades were awful. I've had a concussion before. It's something that should be taken seriously and awareness needs to be made. But they are over enforcing it on the field and it's cause of the lawsuits. It's common sense that if a hand slaps to a qb in the head that it's not going to hurt. Right? Or letting wr catch the ball first, then let him make a move before he can he hit is just ridiculous. Or penalizing the defender for helmet to helmet when the offensive player lowers his head to embrace the hit. In the SB we actually saw a game where they let me play. The best ref is a quiet one IMO.

When you started this I said that you wouldn't want to make the "integrity over safety" argument, and I stay with that opinion.

Your football experience aside, there's just no reason to change the rule that requires a referee to penalize a blow to a QB's head. And don't tell me that there should be some judgment as to whether it might potentially cause an injury. The league is telling rushers to keep their damn hand off the QB's head and they're right. No judgement needed here, and no assault on integrity either.

I'm also agreeing the league's attempt to limit the devastating hits receivers take as they receive the ball. Don't know whether their method is absolutely right, but I applaud their attempt at the killer "gangsta" hits by defensive players more intent on being a highlight on ESPN than actually making a good tackle. They've got to get rid of the headhunters for the good of the game, don't even tell me about integrity.

As to helmet to helmet blows what I's seeing is that the refs almost always get it right. I know that there may be time the offensive player seems to lower his head and contributes to the helmet to helmet contact, but I'll run the risk of getting call wrong over continuing the epidemic of brain injuries that might kill football long before the lack of integrity you're worried about.

As to your assertion that a quiet referee is the best referee, you're just absolutely wrong. The best referee is the one that gets the call right, not the one who eats his whistle...

Chico23231 · 02-24-2013, 09:50 PM

Y! SPORTS

alex smith trade about done. Looks like its the Fat Man

Giantone · 02-24-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I did. I played football for 10 years. I was a quarterback and three year starter in high school on a Maryland State A champinship team. We ran the exact same offense that Don Coryell did. Never had a play book but ran 60 or so plays from that offense. This was 25 years ago. Did not play in college cause my grades were awful. I've had a concussion before. It's something that should be taken seriously and awareness needs to be made. But they are over enforcing it on the field and it's cause of the lawsuits. It's common sense that if a hand slaps to a qb in the head that it's not going to hurt. Right? Or letting wr catch the ball first, then let him make a move before he can he hit is just ridiculous. Or penalizing the defender for helmet to helmet when the offensive player lowers his head to embrace the hit. In the SB we actually saw a game where they let me play. The best ref is a quiet one IMO.

Cool,like I said I was just asking,no judgment.

skinsfaninok · 02-24-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Y! SPORTS

alex smith trade about done. Looks like its the Fat Man

I doubt Smith does much there

GridIron26 · 02-24-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I doubt Smith does much there

Well Smith could do as much - Chiefs does have some weapons on offense with Bowe, Baldwin, Moeaki, McCluster, and Charles. I don't believe Smith will play great enough to win games for the team but I believe he will play well, just like he did with 49ers.

Ruhskins · 02-24-2013, 10:48 PM

Smith will be interesting in KC. Will definitely have better weapons than he did initially in KC (Bowe, Moeaki, and Charles). I don't know how good is the KC o-line; I believe Smith needs a good o-line to succeed. The biggest question will be the defense. KC had a good D when Crennel was their DC, they were pretty banged up last year, I wonder how they'll do this year.

Lotus · 02-24-2013, 10:50 PM

Smith seems like a classic Reid QB - good mobility, strong arm.

Ruhskins · 02-24-2013, 11:04 PM

A bit off topic, but cool nonetheless
Oscar winner wears RGIII socks with his tux

skinsfaninok · 02-24-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Smith will be interesting in KC. Will definitely have better weapons than he did initially in KC (Bowe, Moeaki, and Charles). I don't know how good is the KC o-line; I believe Smith needs a good o-line to succeed. The biggest question will be the defense. KC had a good D when Crennel was their DC, they were pretty banged up last year, I wonder how they'll do this year.

I think he'll be OK there but not like his last couple years in SF, Kc just isn't as good as the 9ers and their oline is not very good.

DynamiteRave · 02-25-2013, 02:13 AM

Didn't know where to put this soooo... Here.

Y! SPORTS

skinsfan69 · 02-25-2013, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

When you started this I said that you wouldn't want to make the "integrity over safety" argument, and I stay with that opinion.

Your football experience aside, there's just no reason to change the rule that requires a referee to penalize a blow to a QB's head. And don't tell me that there should be some judgment as to whether it might potentially cause an injury. The league is telling rushers to keep their damn hand off the QB's head and they're right. No judgement needed here, and no assault on integrity either.

I'm also agreeing the league's attempt to limit the devastating hits receivers take as they receive the ball. Don't know whether their method is absolutely right, but I applaud their attempt at the killer "gangsta" hits by defensive players more intent on being a highlight on ESPN than actually making a good tackle. They've got to get rid of the headhunters for the good of the game, don't even tell me about integrity.

As to helmet to helmet blows what I's seeing is that the refs almost always get it right. I know that there may be time the offensive player seems to lower his head and contributes to the helmet to helmet contact, but I'll run the risk of getting call wrong over continuing the epidemic of brain injuries that might kill football long before the lack of integrity you're worried about.

As to your assertion that a quiet referee is the best referee, you're just absolutely wrong. The best referee is the one that gets the call right, not the one who eats his whistle...

We'll just agree to disagree.

skinsfan69 · 02-25-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

These two statements don't make sense. So you want people to be serious and aware of concussions (and its consequences); but you don't want any measures to prevent them on the game?

again, you're not understanding what i'm saying. we'll agree to disagree.

CultBrennan59 · 02-25-2013, 11:48 AM

Redskins have met with an agent who represents Greg Toler, Dannell Ellerbe and Leodis McKelvin. My guess is we're targeting Toler.

Monkeydad · 02-25-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Smith seems like a classic Reid QB - good mobility, strong arm.

If Reid can put a system in place like he did in Philly, Smith could do well. He made McNabb look pretty good, who was exposed after he left Reid's system.

I've never been a fan of Alex Smith because he's had so many chances and really has not had success until last season, but a QB-friendly system like Reid ran in Philly could mask Smith's inabilities.

Smith is likely better than any other FA or draft options this year. Bad QB year after last year's jackpot class.

He's a giant upgrade over Cassel and Brady Quinn, the worst QB in the NFL.

02-24-2013, 09:50 PM	#363
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02-24-2013, 10:48 PM	#367
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style. Smith will be interesting in KC. Will definitely have better weapons than he did initially in KC (Bowe, Moeaki, and Charles). I don't know how good is the KC o-line; I believe Smith needs a good o-line to succeed. The biggest question will be the defense. KC had a good D when Crennel was their DC, they were pretty banged up last year, I wonder how they'll do this year. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

02-24-2013, 10:50 PM	#368
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02-24-2013, 11:04 PM	#369
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,593	Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style. A bit off topic, but cool nonetheless Oscar winner wears RGIII socks with his tux __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

02-25-2013, 02:13 AM	#371
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02-25-2013, 11:48 AM	#374
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,582	Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style. Redskins have met with an agent who represents Greg Toler, Dannell Ellerbe and Leodis McKelvin. My guess is we're targeting Toler. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

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