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Old 02-28-2013, 09:34 AM   #391
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way overpaid for alex smith. never thought he was that good. point blank.
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:35 AM   #392
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way overpaid for alex smith. never thought he was that good. point blank.
Yep I think he's a 3rd rounder at best . Kc is desperate though
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There's actually a good chance that Percy Harvin and Darrelle Revis could both be on the 49ers next year.

Whether they get one of those guys or both, they're my pick to win the Super Bowl next year over Denver.
Tell me the last SB loser to win it the next year? Odds are. Against SF. I agree about Denver though
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Nobody was going to pony up a 2nd rounder for Smith. It was much like us giving up a 4th to the Jags for Brunell when they were going to cut him anyway. No way the 49ers keep a backup with that type of cap and salary. It wasn't a question of if they were going to cut him, but when. Andy Reid already starting his tenure out in KC as a colossal failure. One of the worst trades I've seen in quite some time.
You might want to wait until they play a few games before you call it a "colossal failure!" lol. What were the alternatives? Brady Quinn? Matt Cassell? A 2nd rounder for Smith seems about right. Yeah he was probably going to get cut but then that puts him on the open market. Smith was playing his best ball when he was benched. If Reid can tone things down in the passing game then I think it's good move for KC. If he doesn't then it's a bad trade.
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Nobody was going to pony up a 2nd rounder for Smith. It was much like us giving up a 4th to the Jags for Brunell when they were going to cut him anyway. No way the 49ers keep a backup with that type of cap and salary. It wasn't a question of if they were going to cut him, but when. Andy Reid already starting his tenure out in KC as a colossal failure. One of the worst trades I've seen in quite some time.
Really? Smith was gonna be the most coveted free agent QB when released so this eliminates the competition. The QB crop in the draft this year is bad. Third round pick is probably a more fair value, I guess the thinking is why compete with the others when Smith is the best QB available n the draft and free agency, pay the higher price. I really dont think KC is that far away in that division, actually believe the talent in KC is better now than Philly by a good margin. Its mos def more well rounded and properly built. When you look at missing parts in KC, it was no discussion, QB by far and away is(was) their biggest problem. Id wouldnt be surprised if Reid trades back now and just acquires another pick with similar value.
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Who knows what other offers teams may have had on the table for Smith. There's not many viable options out there, and add in the fact it seems like a kinda meh QB draft class and I don't think a 2nd rounder for an established veteran QB is that crazy at all. Smith is better than some give him credit for.
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Who knows what other offers teams may have had on the table for Smith. There's not many viable options out there, and add in the fact it seems like a kinda meh QB draft class and I don't think a 2nd rounder for an established veteran QB is that crazy at all. Smith is better than some give him credit for.
I guess no one can give a man credit for making it to the NFC Championship last year. I mean, everyone can do that, right? It's easy, right??
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Who knows what other offers teams may have had on the table for Smith. There's not many viable options out there, and add in the fact it seems like a kinda meh QB draft class and I don't think a 2nd rounder for an established veteran QB is that crazy at all. Smith is better than some give him credit for.
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Giants re-signed LT Will Beatty to a five-year, $38.75 million contract.
The deal includes a $12.5 million signing bonus, and $19 million guaranteed. It's a nice haul for a player who finally stayed healthy last season after missing 14 combined games between 2010-11. Three days shy of his 28th birthday, Beatty allowed just three sacks and 22 hurries in 967 snaps last season. He was never expected to reach free agency. With Beatty locked up for $7.75 million annually, Branden Albert and Jake Long will both target at least $8 million a year.
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I guess no one can give a man credit for making it to the NFC Championship last year. I mean, everyone can do that, right? It's easy, right??
Yeah but when people say sanchez did that, most don't give him credit either they say it was because of the defense. Same with Grossman
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ESPN's Chris Mortensen said a source told him the 49ers are not inclined to pursue Darrelle Revis at this time. So there's that





Looks like Finley is going to be cut judging by his stance here.

Jermichael Finley of Green Bay Packers says he won't accept pay cut - ESPN
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Who knows what other offers teams may have had on the table for Smith. There's not many viable options out there, and add in the fact it seems like a kinda meh QB draft class and I don't think a 2nd rounder for an established veteran QB is that crazy at all. Smith is better than some give him credit for.
Establish veteran? If he was a established veteran, he wouldn't have lost his starting spot due to a injury. Nothing about his career screams established beyond the playoff run in 2011. In fact, the ONLY reason he's still around is due to his lofty status as the #1 pick and the amount of money they poured into him. Had he been a 6th round slot, he would have been replaced long ago.

Mind you, I don't think Smith was the sole reason for his failures. It mostly had to due with his surroundings and changing coaches every year. Still, you are expected to produce in this league. "No excuses" is the phrase I hear all too often.


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I guess no one can give a man credit for making it to the NFC Championship last year. I mean, everyone can do that, right? It's easy, right??
As noted prior, Mark Sanchez reached the NFC championship twice. Would you give up a 2nd rounder for him?



Besides, who is really in the market for Alex Smith? Buffalo? Cardinals? Chiefs? (can't add Jets due to their salary cap) I simply don't think the demand is out there enough to warrant a 2nd rounder. Also, not many teams pursued him when he was a free agent last off-season.
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As noted prior, Mark Sanchez reached the NFC championship twice. Would you give up a 2nd rounder for him?
Alex Smith is a lot better than Mark Sanchez. But I do agree the Chiefs gave up too much. But in the end Alex Smith is still better than what the Chiefs had at the time.

I also think Alex Smith can start. He can win you games, he played well when that 49ers defense did not play well against the Saints in the playoffs. He will bring the Chiefs 6-8 more wins just because of the division they play in and the talent on the Chiefs.
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Establish veteran? If he was a established veteran, he wouldn't have lost his starting spot due to a injury. Nothing about his career screams established beyond the playoff run in 2011. In fact, the ONLY reason he's still around is due to his lofty status as the #1 pick and the amount of money they poured into him. Had he been a 6th round slot, he would have been replaced long ago.

Mind you, I don't think Smith was the sole reason for his failures. It mostly had to due with his surroundings and changing coaches every year. Still, you are expected to produce in this league. "No excuses" is the phrase I hear all too often.




As noted prior, Mark Sanchez reached the NFC championship twice. Would you give up a 2nd rounder for him?



Besides, who is really in the market for Alex Smith? Buffalo? Cardinals? Chiefs? (can't add Jets due to their salary cap) I simply don't think the demand is out there enough to warrant a 2nd rounder. Also, not many teams pursued him when he was a free agent last off-season.
You seem stuck in 2007.

Last year his passer rating was 104.1. In 2011, it was 90.7. If you are a QB-hungry team, there are no other options out there with that kind of proven track record.
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its more than 3 teams. Cardinals were extremely interested, all its takes is one team to grab him.
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