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Old 03-01-2013, 10:43 PM   #511
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Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style.

It won't get that high rave. But his third might after those three SB rings he wins.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:44 PM   #512
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Re: Around the NFL Off - Season style.

Dunta R is essentially DHall without the tackling prowess.

I'd keep hall before I signed that guy.
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It is crazy to think but in three years he will be making 22+ mil a year. As long as he continues to play at a high level that is, and if he does he will be worth every penny.
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8 years 200 mil
Not like MLB or NHL. CBA will allow contracts no longer than 6 years.

Christian Ehrhoff NHL Salary Contract History

Wouldn't mind signing him to a 10 year, 40 million dollar deal like this guy though.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:13 AM   #515
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Never thought I'd say it, mistake by Ozzie Newsome. Highest paid player in NFL history? not close
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:45 PM   #516
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If I understand correcrtly, Flacco's contract is only guaranteed for 3 years, and has roughly the same amount of guaranteed money as Tom's.

I'd expect that he'll have to restructure in two to three years, and bring down his number drastically.

Either way, he was over paid in this armchair GMs opinion.
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Never thought I'd say it, mistake by Ozzie Newsome. Highest paid player in NFL history? not close
Its not a mistake. Ozzie is a smart GM, possibly the best one out there. Flacco, like him or love him, just won a super bowl and was MVP for good reason. He looked like one of the best QBs ever in a super bowl performance wise, and he threw 0 Ints in the playoffs. Flacco is a top 10 QB. His money is number 1 worthy, but we know that Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, RG3, Kaepernick, who in a year to a couple of years will more than likely be signing contracts that exceeds his. This is the largest deal Flacco will ever sign. That I can guarantee. And in a year or two Flacco will be re-doing that deal for guys like Torrey Smith and Arthur Jones for example so yeah now its a big contract but in a year or two it will be what it deserves to be. Keep in mind also that a few years ago Brees was paid more than Brady and Manning and people were like "He's not better than those two" then Brady and Manning got new deals and Brees was paid "where he should have been (#3)"
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Good for Joe, he won a SB for his team and deserves a contract. I guess people around here feel that a player has to win multiple SBs before they get paid? Given how quickly things can change in football (i.e. injury), I think it is smart for players to get the best deal out of an opportunity like this.

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If I understand correcrtly, Flacco's contract is only guaranteed for 3 years, and has roughly the same amount of guaranteed money as Tom's.

I'd expect that he'll have to restructure in two to three years, and bring down his number drastically.

Either way, he was over paid in this armchair GMs opinion.
So you would risk losing a QB that has led the team to multiple playoff appearances and just won a Super Bowl, just to say that you didn't overpay him? I'm sorry but I think Flacco had all the bargaining chips on this contract discussion.
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Good for Joe, he won a SB for his team and deserves a contract. I guess people around here feel that a player has to win multiple SBs before they get paid? Given how quickly things can change in football (i.e. injury), I think it is smart for players to get the best deal out of an opportunity like this.



So you would risk losing a QB that has led the team to multiple playoff appearances and just won a Super Bowl, just to say that you didn't overpay him? I'm sorry but I think Flacco had all the bargaining chips on this contract discussion.
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I can totally see Joe Flacco moving on to an Eli Manning/Tom Brady second phase of his career. Where up to this point he put up slightly above average numbers but after the Super Bowl win people almost want to say the team won it in spite of the QB. Then after they start putting up huge numbers the team has trouble winning a Super Bowl afterwards. Of course thats more Tom Brady then Eli Manning but the point remains the same.

Flacco will probably have a couple of huge years from this point on that justifies the contract but doesn't win the Super Bowl which is just as well. Only one team can win it every year and it's not always the team with the very best QB.

Just to further illustrate here's Brady's and Eli's numbers during years they won the Super Bowl.

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2001 - 86.5 Rating 18 TD - 12 Int's 2,843 Yards - 15 GP
2003 - 85.0 Rating 23 TD - 12 Int's 3,620 Yards - 16 GP
2004 - 92.6 Rating 28 TD - 14 Int's 3,692 Yards - 16 GP

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2008 - 73.9 Rating 23 TD - 20 Int's 3,336 Yards - 16 GP
2011 - 92.9 Rating 29 TD - 16 Int's 4,933 Yards - 16 GP

Compare that to Flacco this past year
2012 - 87.9 Rating 22 TD - 10 Ints 3,817 Yards - 16 GP

Nothing special but when they first won but after they seemed to reach another level.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:49 AM   #521
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One thing I've realized about football that separates it from other sports is that while there are plenty of good predictors of future performance, past performance isn't always the strongest. If you're talking about basketball, baseball, or hockey, it almost always is. In this way, football is different.

If you put a dollar value on Flacco's first five years in the league, he'd come in right around the $40 mil range. But I think his next five should be at least double that. And then when you get in to relative value of last years of contract, this contract ends up coming out pretty equal for both sides.

Three years from now, Flacco will still be one of the top five paid quarterbacks in the league, but not by much. In performance, he'll likely be one of the top five quarterbacks in the league, but again, not by much. Given that, the valuation seems pretty spot on by both sides.
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Or in short, I agree with Dirtbag.
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Flacco earned the contract he got. Good for him.
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Never thought I'd say it, mistake by Ozzie Newsome. Highest paid player in NFL history? not close
I think Ozzie knows what he' doing.
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So you would risk losing a QB that has led the team to multiple playoff appearances and just won a Super Bowl, just to say that you didn't overpay him? I'm sorry but I think Flacco had all the bargaining chips on this contract discussion.
No, and I didn't say that.

I said he was being overpaid. Joe will be the higest paid player in the NFL next year, and will certainly not be the best player in the NFL. Thus in my opinion he will be overpaid.

With that being said, due to the gamble the Ravens took by not locking him up prior to this, they were forced to pay him the big bucks. I agree with the move, but I think he's being overpaid.

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