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Old 02-14-2013, 05:29 PM   #166
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How about we just keep the name and tell the uptight PC folks out there to buzz off?

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Old 02-14-2013, 06:04 PM   #167
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Snyder already owns the rights to the name 'Washington Warriors'. I'm guessing that's the direction they would go if they did change the name.


I'm sure he isn't happy about this.

On Washington Redskins’ name, it’s time the grown-ups talk sense into Daniel Snyder - The Washington Post
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:17 PM   #168
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Re: Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

I have a great deal of empathy for the plight of Native Americans but have also been a fan of the Redskins for almost 50 years. I personally have never thought of the Redskins name as offensive but then thought maybe I am being insensitive.

I asked a 20 plus year friend of mine who is 1/2 Seminole and 1/2 Lakota if he or members of his family who live on the Seminole reservation in Hollywood Florida find the name Redskins, Seminoles, Braves or Indians to be offensive. He said HELL NO. That's good enough for me.
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It would be ironic if all sports teams that offend those certain whiners changed their names and as the years pass that they'll complain why no teams honor Native Americans.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:38 PM   #170
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The name change topic has always angered me. I have grown up proud to be a Redskin. It represents a honor and stregnth to me. If we were forced to change the name I propose at least one season as the Washington Reds - Kins. The sons and daughters of Republicans. With a middle finger as our logo.
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If I missed it I apologize but why not "Braves" and keep the logo?
That'd be cool since i'm an Atlanta Braves fan. I still contend that while I don't think it will happen, if it does, they will use my idea and call the team Washington Pigskins.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:55 AM   #172
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The Washington Post, and Sally Jenkins in particular, cover the Redskins/Dan Snyder with a very thinly veiled bit of contempt. She, at least in her coverage, hates Snyder, and any news item which she can use to mock, attack or just plain hate on Snyder she will do it. A lot of that Dan brought on himself with his early moves when he bought the team, but to think this article is anything more than just an attempt to slam Snyder is basically wrong.

I hope eventually the Post and the Skins kiss and make up, but until then I'll rely on several other far more accurate, and less biased, sources for Skins community news.
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How about we just keep the name and tell the uptight PC folks out there to buzz off?

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The Washington Post, and Sally Jenkins in particular, cover the Redskins/Dan Snyder with a very thinly veiled bit of contempt. She, at least in her coverage, hates Snyder, and any news item which she can use to mock, attack or just plain hate on Snyder she will do it. A lot of that Dan brought on himself with his early moves when he bought the team, but to think this article is anything more than just an attempt to slam Snyder is basically wrong.

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This and Wise just has a stick in his butt on this. Different philosophies are at work. My feeling is that it isn't meant to be offensive, quite the opposite really, and it isn't universally regarded as racist so the PC folks can go pound sand. I have a real problem with the notion that a few people can get upset over something that isn't actually hurting them in any real way and then effect change. The other side thinks these people, infinitesimally insignificant in numbers as they are, get to decide what's best for everyone else.
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So, out of all of the "Native Americans" who were polled at this summit, how many were full-blooded Native Americans, and how much of a percentage who voted actually said the name was not offensive.
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How about we just keep the name and tell the uptight PC folks out there to buzz off?

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Agreed . . . and this:

growing up a Redskin fan in Northern Michigan was not easy. All we got to see on TV was either the Packers or the Lions . . . there was no Direct TV . . . there only thing you could do was the large satellite dish and they were VERY expensive . . . but i lived right down the road from the Ojibwa Indian Community and had quite a few friends there . . . they flew the Redskins flag all football season long and had a community hall with a satellite dish just so they could watch the Redskin games . . . it was a celebration every week . . . and what they told me was the term Redskin meant to them was "Great Warrior" . . . the whole community there embraced the name and the team . . .

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and while that poll is a bit older, there are tons of polls like this . . . the VAST MAJORITY of Native Americans DO NOT find the name offensive.
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Agreed . . . and this:

growing up a Redskin fan in Northern Michigan was not easy. All we got to see on TV was either the Packers or the Lions . . . there was no Direct TV . . . there only thing you could do was the large satellite dish and they were VERY expensive . . . but i lived right down the road from the Ojibwa Indian Community and had quite a few friends there . . . they flew the Redskins flag all football season long and had a community hall with a satellite dish just so they could watch the Redskin games . . . it was a celebration every week . . . and what they told me was the term Redskin meant to them was "Great Warrior" . . . the whole community there embraced the name and the team . . .

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and while that poll is a bit older, there are tons of polls like this . . . the VAST MAJORITY of Native Americans DO NOT find the name offensive.
Unfortunately we live in a world where if one person is offended that's usually enough. Never mind that the one person has a vested interest in being offended and may not even be the subject of the slight. Yeah, I'm talking to you, Liberal do-gooder.

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The Washington Post, and Sally Jenkins in particular, cover the Redskins/Dan Snyder with a very thinly veiled bit of contempt. She, at least in her coverage, hates Snyder, and any news item which she can use to mock, attack or just plain hate on Snyder she will do it. A lot of that Dan brought on himself with his early moves when he bought the team, but to think this article is anything more than just an attempt to slam Snyder is basically wrong.

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Wow, I had missed that article. I honestly can't believe the post would put something like that in their paper. I understand they have their differences with Snyder and the skins, but come on, that was basically journalistic bullying. It's shame, but you really can't trust anything you read or hear, everyone seems to have an agenda.
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Wow, I had missed that article. I honestly can't believe the post would put something like that in their paper. I understand they have their differences with Snyder and the skins, but come on, that was basically journalistic bullying. It's shame, but you really can't trust anything you read or hear, everyone seems to have an agenda.
Yeah, the childish tone of Jenkins' article surprised me. It wasn't written up to professional standards. Let alone fair and accurate.
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