Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

They are turning it into a huge negative, I never thought about it like this growing up.

Welcome to the age of social media.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok so let's get the time period straight, when does the 5 year window close? End of 2017?

By the start of the 2018 season the name will be changed. By that I mean the 1st day of training camp.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I tend to agree with this. I mean, would a change to something like Warriors really be that big of a deal? Hell, you wouldn't have to change much of Hail to the Redskins to get to Hail to the Warrirors. That might be the only changed required.

I, personally, voted for 'yes.' Half because I'm sick of hearing about the name and half because the name is considered offensive. At this stage, I'm somewhat resigned to the fact that it's going to change and I'm pretty much fine with that.

Does this change anyone's opinion?


Hogs Haven

It didn't change mine, but I never had a strong opinion one one way or another. I personally, won't be changing my allegiance if they do change their name. I root for the team/organization/players, the name doesn't make much of a difference. Now, of course, there are plenty of names I wouldn't like, but I also don't feel the need to get my panties in a wad just because this is being discussed.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the name, but the fact that a. some people do and b. Webster's defines it as:


I can see why some people are calling for a name change.

None of the definitions that say its offernsive explain why its offensive. Hell it seems they don't even know how to define the word. Its a hand full of people at best. Yesterday they were lucky to have 100 people in that room and 20% of them were speakers.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

$100 says it won't

I thought you gave up betting.

[Evilgrin]

Are we making fun of them? I don't know?

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I thought you gave up betting.

Hard to pass up a deal like that.

[Mattyk]

Originally Posted by irish

By the start of the 2018 season the name will be changed. By that I mean the 1st day of training camp.

Ok mark it down, I'll put it on my calendar

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok mark it down, I'll put it on my calendar

Odds that either of you won't remember this bet in 5 years, I'd put them at 50/50.

[Mattyk]

Originally Posted by mooby

Odds that either of you won't remember this bet in 5 years, I'd put them at 50/50.

I've already got it in my calendar on my computer.

[hooskins]

How about 100 dollars and public mockery on the warpath. Whatever the "warpath" is called then

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've already got it in my calendar on my computer.

Are you sure that you'll have the same computer in 5 years? Lol. Either way I agree with you, I don't see the name changing in 5 years either.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I've already got it in my calendar on my computer.

Your computer will probably be busy managing the court systems by then.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I tend to agree with this. I mean, would a change to something like Warriors really be that big of a deal? Hell, you wouldn't have to change much of Hail to the Redskins to get to Hail to the Warrirors. That might be the only changed required.

Hogs Haven

I can see why some people are calling for a name change.

Same. Think a name change isn't a big deal. The team is and will be the same to me either way. And I also understand why people think it's offensive.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Same. Think a name change isn't a big deal. The team is and will be the same to me either way. And I also understand why people think it's offensive.

Yeah, but what do you understand about the name that makes it offensive?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Yeah, like Poser's article. the earliest usage of "Redskin" a Google search yields me are examples of indians like "Black Thunder" referring to themselves and whites as "red skins" and "white skins" non-pejoratively.

The racism associated with the name "redskin" came later, in western entertainment like old cowboy movies. These people trying to sue the Redskins should go after those estates / copyright holders. Maybe the club and we fans should join the protesters in that lawsuit, lol.

To suggest the Washington football team would pick an insulting name to call THEMSELVES, for people TO CHEER FOR, is beyond stupid. It's ignoring facts of the name's origin, it's origin with the team, and current usage, to try to win a political issue (Common tactic for liberals/conservatives/everybody it seems sadly), and maybe a guilty liberal "feel good", or bashing those rowdy football fans, or power trip telling an NFL franchise what to do, or even a monetary gain behind taking away a club trademark. Who knows? It's ultimately just plain ignorant to bash the Washington Redskins today.

Lastly, what George Preston Marshall did with segregation was evil and wrong. But ours wasn't the only NFL franchise to segregate, only the last to change because of one racist, the owner. I'm tired of our club being singled out as if all the other clubs old as ours were clean.

Redskins - definition of Redskins by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.