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Old 02-08-2013, 05:00 PM   #61
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Are you sure that you'll have the same computer in 5 years? Lol. Either way I agree with you, I don't see the name changing in 5 years either.
I use iCal for everything, chances are I'll have something Apple related in 5 years
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:02 PM   #62
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(Linguistics / Languages) (Social Science / Peoples) an informal name, now considered offensive, for an American Indian [so called because one particular tribe, the now extinct Beothuks of Newfoundland, painted themselves with red ochre]

There is only one small group that seems to call it offensive and none of these definitions say why its offensive. Because they don't know why its offensive only that some group says so. That group I saw yesterday had more whites and blacks calling it offensive then indians. Who are they to determine if its offensive to another race.
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There's no proof of offense. A slang term for something doesn't equal offensive. Paleface doesn't offend me at all, but it's slang for a white person. Even the high school on the Navajo Reservation in Teec Nos Pos, Arizona used "Redskins" as their mascot.
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See I thought this solved all this stuff years ago!

Washington Redskins can keep team name; Supreme Court refuses native Americans' suit - CSMonitor.com
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Some more info, this is old ...2006 but a good read.


Language Log: The Origin of Redskin
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Your post doesn't make much sense. The definition in your link "redskin: an informal name, now considered offensive, for an American Indian [so called because one particular tribe, the now extinct Beothuks of Newfoundland, painted themselves with red ochre]" is already refuted by the links people gave earlier, and the link you gave later:
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Some more info, this is old ...2006 but a good read.
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Especially Goddard's link inside the link above. HERE

So... thanks for proving the only ones using the name "Redskins" offensively today are the protesters???

(and giants/cowboys/eagles fans during the season??? )
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Oh, boo-hoo. Anyone who finds the Redskin's name offensive can go sit in a corner and suck their thumb. Anyway, what about the Saints. Do atheists find that name offensive?
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Oh, boo-hoo. Anyone who finds the Redskin's name offensive can go sit in a corner and suck their thumb. Anyway, what about the Saints. Do atheists find that name offensive?
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Your post doesn't make much sense. The definition in your link "redskin: an informal name, now considered offensive, for an American Indian [so called because one particular tribe, the now extinct Beothuks of Newfoundland, painted themselves with red ochre]" is already refuted by the links people gave earlier, and the link you gave later:

Especially Goddard's link inside the link above. HERE

So... thanks for proving the only ones using the name "Redskins" offensively today are the protesters???

(and giants/cowboys/eagles fans during the season??? )

I see we pick and choose. I said in another post I thought this was over years ago,it seems kind of silly to keep rehashing this thing.


here it is....

Washington Redskins can keep team name; Supreme Court refuses native Americans' suit - CSMonitor.com
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I've already got it in my calendar on my computer.
Its also in my computer's calendar.
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Some of this post will be obvious to you diehards, but not everyone knows the history of the skins:

George Preston Marshall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In 1932, he and three other partners were awarded an NFL franchise for Boston. This team became known as the Boston Braves, as they played on the same field as baseball's Boston Braves. Marshall's partners left the team after one season, leaving him in control. In 1933 he moved the team from Braves Field to Fenway Park, changing the team nickname to the Redskins.
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Marshall has gained infamy for his intractable opposition to having African-Americans on his roster. According to professor Charles Ross, "For 24 years Marshall was identified as the leading racist in the NFL".
I have many friends that have played for the team and love the history associated with the name. I also see that if you flipped it to another skin color, it may be more clear for others. Tough call when you see both sides of the argument as having merit.

Remember in the 1930's there were many other names for different minority groups. While the groups did not have the political clout to do anything about them at that time, in our era they are considered HIGHLY offensive.

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