MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves

Mattyk · 03-07-2005, 02:51 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...07/mmqb/1.html

I was just reading the rest of the article, of course he loves Pierce going to the Giants, but if we matched that deal I'd bet he would blast us for overpaying for a guy who had one good year.

Mattyk · 03-07-2005, 02:52 PM

If Patten was the #4 WR he was one of the most productive #4's in NFL history, LOL

800 yards and 7 scores, damn I'll take that from my #4 anyday!

Redskins_P · 03-07-2005, 02:59 PM

He also said that he likes Trent Dilfer as a backup and Holcomb as a starter.

Umm....didn't Trent Dilfer win a Super Bowl? What has Holcomb done?

JoeRedskin · 03-07-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by terps and skins

i dont know what happend with Dr.Z, but i wont even ask....lol

Nothing in particular, he's just an even more rabid anti-Skin than King (which is saying something). If we won 4 Superbowl's in a row and consistently had $10M in cap space, Z would simply say that competition in the league has been at a low point, we weren't really a dynasty b/c no good teams are around and, obviously, we are just running things on the cheap and getting lucky.

BrudLee · 03-07-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...07/mmqb/1.html

I was just reading the rest of the article, of course he loves Pierce going to the Giants, but if we matched that deal I'd bet he would blast us for overpaying for a guy who had one good year.

After reading the article, I'm wondering how he gets the taste of Bill Parcells out of his mouth.
"No team in the NFL but the Cowboys can say they've added four players who all have a chance to make the Pro Bowl." Bledsoe to the Pro Bowl? With those receivers?

JoeRedskin · 03-07-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

After reading the article, I'm wondering how he gets the taste of Bill Parcells out of his mouth.
"No team in the NFL but the Cowboys can say they've added four players who all have a chance to make the Pro Bowl." Bledsoe to the Pro Bowl? With those receivers?

In fairness, he admits Bledso is a stretch. From what I have read elsewhere, Ferguson was a good pick-up. Henry? Pro-bowl? I'll believe it when I see it.

Undoubtedly, if it had been the Skins making these signings, we would be overpaying for unproven or overaged talent and been setting ourselves up for salary cap hell.

Mattyk · 03-07-2005, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

After reading the article, I'm wondering how he gets the taste of Bill Parcells out of his mouth.
"No team in the NFL but the Cowboys can say they've added four players who all have a chance to make the Pro Bowl." Bledsoe to the Pro Bowl? With those receivers?

LOL how about Jason Ferguson?! Dude's been in the league for 8 years now and hasn't made the Pro Bowl, his season high for tackles is 52, his season high for sacks is 4.5, yet somehow King thinks:

Quote:

"Jason Ferguson should make at least one Pro Bowl while with the Cowboys."

Really Peter, why?

How about this quote, tell me we don't get blasted for being the same way, yet somehow he's praising Dallas for it

Quote:

What the Cowboys did, particularly with Ferguson and Rivera, shows how valuable a strong owner willing to spend available cap money and a coach with clout can be.

LOL, whatever

BrudLee · 03-07-2005, 03:27 PM

Emphasis added:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Undoubtedly, if it had been the Skins making these signings, we would be overpaying for unproven or overaged talent and been setting ourselves up for salary cap hell.

Two of the four "superstars" he's praising have scrupuluously avoided Pro Bowl Status, Rivera has a history of leg injuries, and Bledsoe will be in his fourth offense in four years. They also average over 30 years of age, which makes the long term investment in them... puzzling.

SmootSmack · 03-07-2005, 03:34 PM

"Other than Peyton Manning, no NFL player will make as much cash in 2004"

?? Looking at my calendar it says we're already in 2005. I'm guessing this was a typo

What bothered me most about that column was finding out that one of my fave former Redskins, Todd Bowles, is now the Cowboys secondary coach.

JoeRedskin · 03-07-2005, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

"What bothered me most about that column was finding out that one of my fave former Redskins, Todd Bowles, is now the Cowboys secondary coach.

I agree completely.

Todd Bowles is now dead to me.

Schneed10 · 03-07-2005, 03:42 PM

On Patten, I can only point to his very own words at his press conference:

He was asked if he expected to see more passes come his way after spending the last four seasons in a New England Patriots passing offense that seemed to spread the ball around.

"It's not about me--it's not about one individual," Patten replied. "In New England, we all wanted to catch 10 balls a game, but it made us a better team and a better offense when a defense had to come in and prepare for all of us.

"You'll have to excuse me...I'm a little sensitive about that topic because I feel that [the New England wide receivers corps] didn't get the respect I believe we deserved. We were a very hard-working receiver corps and we felt like we could put our talent up against anyone. We felt like we had four No. 1 receivers--but we always put the team before any personal goals."

THAT's the kind of player we want, PUT THE TEAM BEFORE PERSONAL GOALS. I'm fully confident that Patten could have put up some sick numbers if he was a focal point of the offense, but the Pats spread the ball around. If Peter King wants to suggest that we're better off with a selfish prick like Coles instead of a team player like Patten, he can lick my baloon knot.

Redskins_P · 03-07-2005, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schneed10

On Patten, I can only point to his very own words at his press conference:

He was asked if he expected to see more passes come his way after spending the last four seasons in a New England Patriots passing offense that seemed to spread the ball around.

"It's not about me--it's not about one individual," Patten replied. "In New England, we all wanted to catch 10 balls a game, but it made us a better team and a better offense when a defense had to come in and prepare for all of us.

"You'll have to excuse me...I'm a little sensitive about that topic because I feel that [the New England wide receivers corps] didn't get the respect I believe we deserved. We were a very hard-working receiver corps and we felt like we could put our talent up against anyone. We felt like we had four No. 1 receivers--but we always put the team before any personal goals."

THAT's the kind of player we want, PUT THE TEAM BEFORE PERSONAL GOALS. I'm fully confident that Patten could have put up some sick numbers if he was a focal point of the offense, but the Pats spread the ball around. If Peter King wants to suggest that we're better off with a selfish prick like Coles instead of a team player like Patten, he can lick my baloon knot.

Well put Scheed. Good post.

celts32 · 03-07-2005, 03:46 PM

I am no King fan much like everyone else here, but I tend to agree with him here. Our WR corp for next year the way it looks is shaky to say the least. Patten is an average player and Moss has been a dissapointment his whole career. I just hope that we add a WR in the draft who can be a legitimate #1 then these guys will look a little better when asked to be a #2 or #3 WR.

Schneed10 · 03-07-2005, 03:52 PM

OK, you guys know how Peter King is always talkin about his daughters in his columns and how they're always playing softball and crap? Well we have to make it our collective mission here at the Warpath for some of us, one of us, any of us; to find out where Mary Beth King goes to college, pay a visit, get her loaded, hook up with her, and then write in to Peter telling him all about our tale of conquest.

dirtbag2112 · 03-07-2005, 04:01 PM

YEAH...Peter King is SENILE. Don't buy into his rhetoric.

03-07-2005, 02:51 PM	#16
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,673	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...07/mmqb/1.html I was just reading the rest of the article, of course he loves Pierce going to the Giants, but if we matched that deal I'd bet he would blast us for overpaying for a guy who had one good year. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-07-2005, 02:52 PM	#17
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,673	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves If Patten was the #4 WR he was one of the most productive #4's in NFL history, LOL 800 yards and 7 scores, damn I'll take that from my #4 anyday! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-07-2005, 02:59 PM	#18
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sterling, VA Age: 34 Posts: 4,065	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves He also said that he likes Trent Dilfer as a backup and Holcomb as a starter. Umm....didn't Trent Dilfer win a Super Bowl? What has Holcomb done?

03-07-2005, 03:34 PM	#24
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,098	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves "Other than Peyton Manning, no NFL player will make as much cash in 2004" ?? Looking at my calendar it says we're already in 2005. I'm guessing this was a typo What bothered me most about that column was finding out that one of my fave former Redskins, Todd Bowles, is now the Cowboys secondary coach. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-07-2005, 03:42 PM	#26
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,892	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves On Patten, I can only point to his very own words at his press conference: He was asked if he expected to see more passes come his way after spending the last four seasons in a New England Patriots passing offense that seemed to spread the ball around. "It's not about me--it's not about one individual," Patten replied. "In New England, we all wanted to catch 10 balls a game, but it made us a better team and a better offense when a defense had to come in and prepare for all of us. "You'll have to excuse me...I'm a little sensitive about that topic because I feel that [the New England wide receivers corps] didn't get the respect I believe we deserved. We were a very hard-working receiver corps and we felt like we could put our talent up against anyone. We felt like we had four No. 1 receivers--but we always put the team before any personal goals." THAT's the kind of player we want, PUT THE TEAM BEFORE PERSONAL GOALS. I'm fully confident that Patten could have put up some sick numbers if he was a focal point of the offense, but the Pats spread the ball around. If Peter King wants to suggest that we're better off with a selfish prick like Coles instead of a team player like Patten, he can lick my baloon knot.

03-07-2005, 03:46 PM	#28
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 41 Posts: 2,643	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves I am no King fan much like everyone else here, but I tend to agree with him here. Our WR corp for next year the way it looks is shaky to say the least. Patten is an average player and Moss has been a dissapointment his whole career. I just hope that we add a WR in the draft who can be a legitimate #1 then these guys will look a little better when asked to be a #2 or #3 WR.

03-07-2005, 03:52 PM	#29
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,892	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves OK, you guys know how Peter King is always talkin about his daughters in his columns and how they're always playing softball and crap? Well we have to make it our collective mission here at the Warpath for some of us, one of us, any of us; to find out where Mary Beth King goes to college, pay a visit, get her loaded, hook up with her, and then write in to Peter telling him all about our tale of conquest.

03-07-2005, 04:01 PM	#30
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Re: MMQ: King Criticizes 'Skins' Offseason Moves YEAH...Peter King is SENILE. Don't buy into his rhetoric.

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