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Old 03-07-2005, 05:41 PM   #16
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I wouldn't be suprised to see us run more 3-4 WR sets this year if Gibbs actually does open it up. I think Jacobs deserves the 3rd spot, rookie 4th, and keep Thrash our special teams ace with occassional receiver work!
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Old 03-07-2005, 05:47 PM   #17
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holy shit!?!?!??!?!?!?!? So let me get this straight, Rolle was rated as the top corner in free agency and he got 11 million. We offered Smoot 10. That means that Snyder actually made a competitive offer. People always give Snyder shit, either he overpays or he tries and screws the player. It looks like Smoot was offered exactly what hes worth, and Snyder took a stand and said we want you, and we watn to give you what you are worth. He isnt over paying, he isnt underpaying. Hes offering our own grown player market value. Im very happy to hear that Rolle only got 11
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I wouldn't be suprised to see us run more 3-4 WR sets this year if Gibbs actually does open it up. I think Jacobs deserves the 3rd spot, rookie 4th, and keep Thrash our special teams ace with occassional receiver work!
That would be nice, but Gibbs has this thing for the running game, you know? In fact, many of the 4-wideout formations in Gibbs' offense tend to be running plays designed only to spread out the defense.

I don't have much of an argument for your example there, and I'd love to see us throw it around a little more. It's just that rookie WRs -- unless they're the next Randy Moss -- tend to take 2 or 3 seasons to get into a groove. With new needs at linebacker and possibly cornerback, plus the annual "we need a pass-rushing stud at DE" that never gets addressed; that just put wideout on the backburner if you ask me.
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Old 03-07-2005, 05:54 PM   #19
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Just wanted to remind everyone that Pastabelly had it on reliable sources that Rolle was going to the skins for some crazy signing bonus, proving once again how bad Danny snyder is, etc. etc.

F*** you, Pasta, you fat POS. Wrong again.
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Old 03-07-2005, 05:54 PM   #20
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Beemn - I know this. He didn't spread the defense with many WRs near enough last year, in my opinion. Especially on the goal line. Make them respect four WRs. Thats why I said put the rookie at #4. There's nothing that can make up for real game experience. They'd have enough, if we have one of the two top WRs Williams/Edwards then I really feel they can make an impact the first year. I don't think we need a DE, I think our DEs, while not stars, are very solid.
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Old 03-07-2005, 06:00 PM   #21
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Beemn - I know this. He didn't spread the defense with many WRs near enough last year, in my opinion. Especially on the goal line. Make them respect four WRs. Thats why I said put the rookie at #4. There's nothing that can make up for real game experience. They'd have enough, if we have one of the two top WRs Williams/Edwards then I really feel they can make an impact the first year. I don't think we need a DE, I think our DEs, while not stars, are very solid.
Gibbs is old school, and he would take the Lord's name in vain before he put 4 wideouts on the goal line.

One thing that would open up our passing attack -- which is what everybody wants -- is for the running game to become a 5 yard per carry threat. Last year it was about three. And that's not scaring anyone.
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Just wanted to remind everyone that Pastabelly had it on reliable sources that Rolle was going to the skins for some crazy signing bonus, proving once again how bad Danny snyder is, etc. etc.

F*** you, Pasta, you fat POS. Wrong again.
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Old 03-07-2005, 06:06 PM   #23
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Beemn - because of our passing game. It was obvious where the ball was going and who was getting it. Doesn't matter who you have back there it's hard to run with 8 in the box.
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I like the way the Skins are holding strong with Smoot, and holding to their financial constraints as well.

We like to complain when they spend $$ left and right, and now that they're actually showing some restraint we're still giving them shit.

It's starting to look like $10M is a very fair offer for Smoot.
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Old 03-07-2005, 07:10 PM   #25
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Just wanted to remind everyone that Pastabelly had it on reliable sources that Rolle was going to the skins for some crazy signing bonus, proving once again how bad Danny snyder is, etc. etc.

F*** you, Pasta, you fat POS. Wrong again.

Really do not believe that Rolle was ever coming to the Redskins! Just reading what Gibbs has said about who they were looking at first and where! I think he never was in the plan! I think the Smoot and Redskins can get this done if both sides will come together! It would make the up coming draft a way to look for the best players on the board then filling the need!
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:11 PM   #26
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Ray Lewis - murderer
Gary Baxter - gambling racket boss
Terrell Suggs - violent drunk (assault)
Cornell Brown - drunk driver and drug user
Chris McCalister - drug user and drunk driver
Samari Rolle - wife beater
Jamal Lewis - drug dealer

edit by BrudLee - Antrelle Rolle is guilty of nothing...yet.
Damn good D though i guess we should get some murders and drug dealers on our offense, it might work! I say get O.J to come back but that was our problem earlier bringing in has beens so i will keep my DUI Taylor and be content, he is amazing!!
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Old 03-07-2005, 08:47 PM   #27
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I'm also liking that the market for a CB is getting smaller and smaller with teams filling their needs with others and not Smoot.
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:52 AM   #28
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The Skins offer to Smoot is very fair, and like Matty said, I like the way they are not throwing money around this year. That said, Rolle was supposed to be the top CB in FA this year, so if they really want to keep Smoot, just bump the SB up from 10.5 to 11 million to match Rolle's and see what he and his agent have to say.

And by the way, why isn't the local media getting on the Ravens for going after all the big-name FA's this year? Remember that they have a new young owner now, and this is his first full offseason with the team (even though Newsome is still the GM).
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Old 03-08-2005, 10:42 AM   #29
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So how the hell did Lucas get 13 mil? That is a crazy ass signing bonus compared to the market. So is Henry's. I think just about everyone has Rolle and Smoot as the top two FA CBs. It was almost unanimous. Carolina and Dallas vastly over paid it seems. Even Baxter's is high. Craziness. I am glad we're sticking hard on Smoot. Even if we end up losing him then at least we know they played the game the right way and it just didn't workout.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:45 AM   #30
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Let's not forget people found out Rolle had some health issues. I'm sure that dropped his payday considerably! Not to mention he's going to a team where he'll be the #2 CB and they have a good defense that can make him look better!
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