London Fletcher leaning towards playing in 2013 (updated)

CultBrennan59 · 03-04-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Sometimes you gotta just let a guy get in there and play.... and now is the time to get Robinson in there. He can't be any worse in coverage than Fletch was. He might even be better in that area.

Coverage is his strength. Its run defense where he struggled.

Evilgrin · 03-04-2013, 11:56 AM

I gotta agree Pass Defense is where they need massive help, and he was as bad as anyone in coverage at times. Either that or he plays less downs on obvious passing situations, which means he needs to make less anyway.

I think he is 100% a HoF though, not sure how anyone could debate he isn't. The guy was an alternate 11 times in 12 season at one point.

skinsfan69 · 03-04-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Coverage is his strength. Its run defense where he struggled.

I don't think he's even played enough to know whether or not he can play the run. But like Matty mentioned, there could be a combo between Robinson and Alexander....if we can get him signed.

Chico23231 · 03-04-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

No, we don't. Perry Riley is above average but there's no other ILB that would start anywhere in the league. Zoe is better on the outside than the inside IMO. Robinson was real shaky in his few opportunities. Dez will own
Robinson for his entire career like Brandon Jacobs owned that goofball Landry.

If Fletch retires ILB immediately becomes our top off-season priority, and that's saying a lot given the situations at RT and FS.

We lose a lot with Fletch going, but FS and RT are still more of an issue as well as CB.

How did this become Dez vs Robinson?

InsaneBoost · 03-04-2013, 02:44 PM

Wasn't Riley brought in to ultimately replace Fletcher? Everything I've seen from Riley suggest he'll be fine. Question is about the rest of the LB's. Health wise, growth, etc.

The Goat · 03-04-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why would an inside backer be out covering a WR?

I'll look for a video replay at some point. Admittedly, three of my best buds are Dallas fans and we all watched the first game (in Dallas), so I've never heard the last of this one play. But it was pretty shocking how bad/weak Robinson was. Dez caught a ball near the sideline, maybe it was a screen, and juked the first defender out of his shoes. By that time Robinson had come from midfield, he was at a full run but didn't lower his shoulder to make the tackle (terrible form all around really) and Dez turned around just in time to lower his shoulder and absolutely slam Robinson to the turf, before he scampered off for a big gain.

I feel like if the roles were reversed, say Morgan or Garcon did this to Lee, it would be in Redskins lore already. Honestly surprised so few remember it around here because Robinson was just pathetic, but again I've had to hear about it ever since.

Unless there's some kind of inside info about Robinson "holding back" or suddenly discovering his inner awesomeness, the notion he's anywhere near starting caliber is insane. Oh, and he's coming off injury too.

Mattyk · 03-04-2013, 09:56 PM

I think it's way premature to make any assumptions about Robinson.

Hog1 · 03-04-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it's way premature to make any assumptions about Robinson.

I.........don't want to live in a world where....that matters.

Lotus · 03-04-2013, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I'll look for a video replay at some point. Admittedly, three of my best buds are Dallas fans and we all watched the first game (in Dallas), so I've never heard the last of this one play. But it was pretty shocking how bad/weak Robinson was. Dez caught a ball near the sideline, maybe it was a screen, and juked the first defender out of his shoes. By that time Robinson had come from midfield, he was at a full run but didn't lower his shoulder to make the tackle (terrible form all around really) and Dez turned around just in time to lower his shoulder and absolutely slam Robinson to the turf, before he scampered off for a big gain.

I feel like if the roles were reversed, say Morgan or Garcon did this to Lee, it would be in Redskins lore already. Honestly surprised so few remember it around here because Robinson was just pathetic, but again I've had to hear about it ever since.

Unless there's some kind of inside info about Robinson "holding back" or suddenly discovering his inner awesomeness, the notion he's anywhere near starting caliber is insane. Oh, and he's coming off injury too.

You are dismissing Robinson based on one play? You'd have to release every player in the league by that logic. I saw Tom Brady throw a dumb interception - so the Pats should bench him as not ready to start?

C'mon man.

The Goat · 03-05-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

You are dismissing Robinson based on one play? You'd have to release every player in the league by that logic. I saw Tom Brady throw a dumb interception - so the Pats should bench him as not ready to start?

C'mon man.

This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.

Lotus · 03-05-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.

Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.

Bubba305-ST21- · 03-05-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.

A......men

The Goat · 03-05-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.

Was Tana in the discussion to replace a HOFer for his 2nd season?

Mattyk · 03-05-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.

On the subject of absurd, you referenced one single play as a basis for your opinion. I don't think anyone is calling him a sure starter, but he's certain to be in the mix as a possible starter if Fletcher is gone. Fact is we're still in wait and see mode with him.

SCRedskinsFan · 03-05-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

On the subject of absurd, you referenced one single play as a basis for your opinion. I don't think anyone is calling him a sure starter, but he's certain to be in the mix as a possible starter if Fletcher is gone. Fact is we're still in wait and see mode with him.

Like we're still in wait and see mode with Goat...

Well, maybe not.

03-04-2013, 11:56 AM	#32
Evilgrin Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 464	re: London Fletcher leaning towards playing in 2013 (updated) I gotta agree Pass Defense is where they need massive help, and he was as bad as anyone in coverage at times. Either that or he plays less downs on obvious passing situations, which means he needs to make less anyway. I think he is 100% a HoF though, not sure how anyone could debate he isn't. The guy was an alternate 11 times in 12 season at one point. __________________ Mike Shanahan visited Madame Tussauds yesterday, he tried to recruit a couple wax figures for the skins? They seemed fine to him, just quiet.

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InsaneBoost The Starter Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Age: 25 Posts: 1,292	re: London Fletcher leaning towards playing in 2013 (updated) Wasn't Riley brought in to ultimately replace Fletcher? Everything I've seen from Riley suggest he'll be fine. Question is about the rest of the LB's. Health wise, growth, etc. __________________ Twitter @ArenaDriveTimes

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Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	I think it's way premature to make any assumptions about Robinson. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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