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Old 03-04-2013, 12:55 PM   #31
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No, we don't. Perry Riley is above average but there's no other ILB that would start anywhere in the league. Zoe is better on the outside than the inside IMO. Robinson was real shaky in his few opportunities. Dez will own
Robinson for his entire career
like Brandon Jacobs owned that goofball Landry.

If Fletch retires ILB immediately becomes our top off-season priority, and that's saying a lot given the situations at RT and FS.
We lose a lot with Fletch going, but FS and RT are still more of an issue as well as CB.

How did this become Dez vs Robinson?
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Wasn't Riley brought in to ultimately replace Fletcher? Everything I've seen from Riley suggest he'll be fine. Question is about the rest of the LB's. Health wise, growth, etc.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:30 PM   #33
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Why would an inside backer be out covering a WR?
I'll look for a video replay at some point. Admittedly, three of my best buds are Dallas fans and we all watched the first game (in Dallas), so I've never heard the last of this one play. But it was pretty shocking how bad/weak Robinson was. Dez caught a ball near the sideline, maybe it was a screen, and juked the first defender out of his shoes. By that time Robinson had come from midfield, he was at a full run but didn't lower his shoulder to make the tackle (terrible form all around really) and Dez turned around just in time to lower his shoulder and absolutely slam Robinson to the turf, before he scampered off for a big gain.

I feel like if the roles were reversed, say Morgan or Garcon did this to Lee, it would be in Redskins lore already. Honestly surprised so few remember it around here because Robinson was just pathetic, but again I've had to hear about it ever since.

Unless there's some kind of inside info about Robinson "holding back" or suddenly discovering his inner awesomeness, the notion he's anywhere near starting caliber is insane. Oh, and he's coming off injury too.
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I think it's way premature to make any assumptions about Robinson.
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I think it's way premature to make any assumptions about Robinson.
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I'll look for a video replay at some point. Admittedly, three of my best buds are Dallas fans and we all watched the first game (in Dallas), so I've never heard the last of this one play. But it was pretty shocking how bad/weak Robinson was. Dez caught a ball near the sideline, maybe it was a screen, and juked the first defender out of his shoes. By that time Robinson had come from midfield, he was at a full run but didn't lower his shoulder to make the tackle (terrible form all around really) and Dez turned around just in time to lower his shoulder and absolutely slam Robinson to the turf, before he scampered off for a big gain.

I feel like if the roles were reversed, say Morgan or Garcon did this to Lee, it would be in Redskins lore already. Honestly surprised so few remember it around here because Robinson was just pathetic, but again I've had to hear about it ever since.

Unless there's some kind of inside info about Robinson "holding back" or suddenly discovering his inner awesomeness, the notion he's anywhere near starting caliber is insane. Oh, and he's coming off injury too.
You are dismissing Robinson based on one play? You'd have to release every player in the league by that logic. I saw Tom Brady throw a dumb interception - so the Pats should bench him as not ready to start?

C'mon man.
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You are dismissing Robinson based on one play? You'd have to release every player in the league by that logic. I saw Tom Brady throw a dumb interception - so the Pats should bench him as not ready to start?

C'mon man.
This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.
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This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.
Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.
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Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.
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Mr. Goat, I respectfully offer that you missed my point entirely. The point was that you cannot judge a player, for good or for ill, based on one play. Yet you did just this in a post above.

Further, you are forgetting that Robinson was a rookie. Did you know that Santana Moss caught only two passes as a rookie? Based on his rookie production, it would have been "absurd" to think that Moss could be a viable #1 receiver. Yet that is exactly what happened.

Rookies often struggle. And then they improve. Such might happen to Robinson, prior injury or not.
Was Tana in the discussion to replace a HOFer for his 2nd season?
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This post is below your typical IQ IMO.

I've not heard/seen/read a single reference about Robinson impressing on a specific play, series or game. And again, now he's coming off a relatively serious injury. The rising notion he's a starter, let alone a good choice for replacing London, is just absurd. That's my point.
On the subject of absurd, you referenced one single play as a basis for your opinion. I don't think anyone is calling him a sure starter, but he's certain to be in the mix as a possible starter if Fletcher is gone. Fact is we're still in wait and see mode with him.
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On the subject of absurd, you referenced one single play as a basis for your opinion. I don't think anyone is calling him a sure starter, but he's certain to be in the mix as a possible starter if Fletcher is gone. Fact is we're still in wait and see mode with him.
Like we're still in wait and see mode with Goat...

Well, maybe not.
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Was Tana in the discussion to replace a HOFer for his 2nd season?
The question isn't who will replace a HoFer, because only another HoFer could do that, and that is a ridiculously high standard.

The question is, "Can Robinson play at a reasonably high level in Fletch's spot?" In answer to this question, none of us can be 100% certain that he will. But none of us, including you, can be 100% certain that he won't. And no one should judge the answer based on one play.
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The question isn't who will replace a HoFer, because only another HoFer could do that, and that is a ridiculously high standard.

The question is, "Can Robinson play at a reasonably high level in Fletch's spot?" In answer to this question, none of us can be 100% certain that he will. But none of us, including you, can be 100% certain that he won't. And no one should judge the answer based on one play.
Furthermore, lets call a spade a spade, Fletcher was not playing at HOF status the last few years. He was an above average linebacker (looking specifically at his play). I'm not sure what Robinson is/isnt, but for me the worry isn't replacing Fletcher on the field. Its the locker room leader he is that is my bigger concern.
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At this point, ive moved on from Fletcher. He can still play at a high level, but given the salary cap penalty, the 4MM in cap room we'd save by cutting him is more valuable than he is.
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