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Old 03-04-2013, 11:42 PM   #31
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He's not. And call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind pac man and I would certainly love to have Rolando here.

The reason why pac mans name is being thrown around is because he quietly had one of the best seasons a CB had this year in the league.

Rolando, I think he just needs a change of scenary and leadership which I still think this team will have with or without Fletcher (Orakpo, Cofield, RG3). I think that if Rolando came here he'd be indetical to what Brandon Spikes is in New England (an occasional controversial tweet or hit on the field, but nothing major) than what he is in Oakland, with poor coaching and being in the wrong system with other players that are out of control could care less about winning, more about that paycheck, kind of guys.
CB, you know I've complimented you on some of your posts, but you are way off the mark on this one.

You want to find out if these two knuckleheads will behave if they are in a better environment with grown-up teammates to babysit them? I think that's much too risky under our current circumstances. We only have a limited amount to spend in FA and I'd rather not take a chance on these miscreants.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:48 PM   #32
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Re: Hard Decisions: The solution to the $18MM offseason puzzle

One thing that has made Shanahan (reasonably) successful so far in his Skins tenure is collecting high-character guys for the roster and letting those of lesser character leave. To bring in Pacman and/or McClain would run counter to this method.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:25 AM   #33
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he's certaintly worth that ^
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:28 AM   #34
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Re: Hard Decisions: The solution to the $18MM offseason puzzle

Players I would cut:

Moss
D. Hall
Carriker



I'd resign Hall if his number would be in the 2-3mil/year range, other than that he can hit the streets.


We need to bring Morgan's cap figure down. If not, cut him as well. He's played well, but not for that type of money.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:29 AM   #35
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Re: Hard Decisions: The solution to the $18MM offseason puzzle

I have a hard time worrying about the cap because we have one of these threads each year and each year it seems we find the cap money we need.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:53 AM   #36
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morgan was quietly VERY solid for us last year, as a WR and a blocker... i honestly couldn't justify cutting him at all... but def try and re-structure his # ... and i couldn't really see cutting Moss either... who is going to replace the big plays, clutch plays and overall production he put up for us last year?
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:15 AM   #37
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Id stay away from McClain. He just tryed the false name to a cop trick that never works in January. I couldnt trust him, bad news and actually a bust. We dont need him.

Wouldnt cut Morgan. He's proven to be a good player and will get better.
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Morgan was our best WR last yr damn near
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I have a hard time worrying about the cap because we have one of these threads each year and each year it seems we find the cap money we need.
"Find the cap money we need" - thats interesting. We made the playoffs last year while dealing with an 18MM cap hit. Yes, we were under the cap and made a nice run... but how much further could we have gone if we'd spent that 18MM on some better offensive linemen to protect griffin. Or 2-3 really good starters in the secondary. Do you think, if we had a better secondary, we would have one 2 more games? I do. and that would have resulted in a 1st round bye. 3 more wins and we'd have clinched homefield throughout the playoffs.

The issue is not "finding the cap money we need" to get sign 53 players under the salary cap. The issue is how much less talented of a team we will to put on the field in 2013 because the NFL took 15% of our cap away.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:30 PM   #40
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I don't know how people b*tch about Hall's attitude and want to bring batsh*t crazy characters like Pacman Jones, Talib, or McClain. I know they have talent, but these guys are a sneeze away from long term suspensions and have probably done worst things than any of our current players have (except TW and FD maybe).
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Well I don't think Williams and Davis are in same category with whom you mentioned. Smoking weed isn't exactly bad as being charged with some kind of criminal charges like others did
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I have a hard time worrying about the cap because we have one of these threads each year and each year it seems we find the cap money we need.
This years different because they are over the cap AND they have several free agents that they want to re-sign. Last season - even with the same cap penalty, they didn't mind losing the players that they cut or didn't re-sign last offseason.

This year there is at least a handful of productive players that they would want to re-sign. And another small difference is - the free agents that were signed last offseason now are counting against the cap - the biggest are Garçon and Morgan.
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Well I don't think Williams and Davis are in same category with whom you mentioned. Smoking weed isn't exactly bad as being charged with some kind of criminal charges like others did
To me, its not the smoking weed that bothers me. It's the multiple warnings they got and continued to do it. They tested positive and basically were told don't do this again, and they still did it. I know a lot was said about the timing of the tests, ect.

That said, they both seemed to clean up fine. Williams from all accounts is motivated as hell, and he played fantastic last year. Davis did all the right things afterwards, and I really hope he comes back. The injury to me is 100x more of a concern to me than any "character" issues.
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... Not saying that they can't sign any new impact free agents but they might have to lose a key productive player (comtributing to a 10-6 playoff team) that will need to be replaced. Namely Hall and Moss.
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Morgan was our best WR last yr damn near
I agree. Garcon was easily the only "difference maker" but Morgan I thought was extremley solid. In addition, I really want Hank to step up, and I thought last year was gonna be the year he did, but I didn't think he really played as well as I would have liked in his spot. I wouldn't get rid of Morgan. That said, I'd have no problems rolling with the same group of WR's as we did last year (maybe replacing Brizcoe/Banks).
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