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Old 03-14-2013, 12:34 AM   #586
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well he said they changed the offer Monday. so I could see that they did that as they neared the decision to keep Moss and Carriker instead of cutting them. If he doesn't understand the cap penalty part of it, oh well, Bottomline it was about money and that's his right, but don't try to put the skins down, if the 2.7 million was enough Monday he could have signed Sunday and gotten it. then we would have cut either Carriker or Moss or both.
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grantpaulsen tweeted that Zo understood:

Alexander was considering signing w/ #Redskins for smaller deal before they lowered guaranteed $ on MON night. Said theres no hard feelings.


bottomline you can count at least CB and ST captain as 2 positions directly impacted.by the cap penalty. keep that in mind as the season plays out.
Lorenzo Alexander: Arizona offered more guaranteed cash | WashingtonExaminer.com

Lorenzo Alexander: Decision to leave Redskins for Cardinals was both hard and easy
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:52 AM   #587
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Zo is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to say this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.
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So is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to day this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.
your last paragraph sums it up nicely.
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So is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to day this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.
Makes sense but it could get worse and surely it will.
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Zo is the kind of player that barring injury will play 5 more years. He may be back in B & G before his career is over. He put down roots here and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back one day, but this year the cap penalty killed it.

I want to say this too, the team has returned 46 of the 53 players from last years championship run. With the exceptions of Davis and Zo the remaining players that haven't been brought back have been in the defensive backfield.

They must be looking at it from the perspective of: We ranked 31st, we retained the ones we could afford and it's not like adding a few players in FA and the draft back there could really do much worse. If there is improvement to be made changes in personel had to occur. They will figure out how to get it done and if three rookies have significant playing roles back there than so be it. The draft is deep at the positions we are in need of.

It remains to be seen what happens. But as of now, we have to forget about Lorenzo Alexander. Hopefully Keenan Robinson or another inside linebacker will be able to replace Alexander, but now we must look to the draft. The Redskins might be able to sign a quality young ILB in free agency.

Maybe Chase Minnifield can prove his doubters wrong. Not saying he can step in for Hall, but Minnifield had first round talent coming out of Virginia. Whose to say he can't develop into an every down corner? Because he's coming off a knee injury, the odds are stacked against him. But I think he has what it takes to prove people wrong.

And you're right about this year's defensive backfield draft class. The positions of safety and corner are deep. I'm sure Bruce Allen will end up selecting a few rare talents.
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Who?
Some Cardinal guy?
The team that has no QB and little else?
Enjoy finishing your career in obscurity.
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Who?
Some Cardinal guy?
The team that has no QB and little else?
Enjoy finishing your career in obscurity.
Yep. Zo is a classic case where you can't blame the guy for taking the money but in some ways his new gig is a demotion.
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Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013

This thread is quickly becoming a oxymoron.
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Makes sense but it could get worse and surely it will.
I don't think it has to. our secondary and safety play in particular were so bad last year, we are basically just trying a new crew. Some will step up, some won't, but I would be shocked if our young guys can't at least equal what was a pretty dismal performance. Also, if our dline and olb's stay healthy (always a question), the experience guys like Jenkins and Jackson got this year by more extended play, should let us see some solid improvements in the pressure we generate.

As was said, we kept our offense in place, so that should be a strength, and are going to have to go young at what was already an area in need of overhaul. I am pretty hopeful that next year won't see much of a decline in statistical performance, if any at all.

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Would like to see the skins give Dan Conner a look. Only 27 , good fit in our style defence . Could replace Alexander.
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Yep. Zo is a classic case where you can't blame the guy for taking the money but in some ways his new gig is a demotion.
How is it a demotion? He's a starter there.
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How is it a demotion? He's a starter there.
He's going to compete for a starter position.
And the Cardinals are in quarterback hell.
They will be a basement team for a while....
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How is it a demotion? He's a starter there.
Of course you are correct that he becomes a starter there. Good for him. But he will join a crappy team edition of a franchise that already typically is off-the-radar, meaning he will have little national exposure. Instead of fighting for glory in a sexy NFL division, he'll slip into obscurity in NFL Siberia.
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He's going to compete for a starter position.
And the Cardinals are in quarterback hell.
They will be a basement team for a while....
"Compete." I missed that key word. He probably would have had that same opportunity here if Fletch had retired. I would have rather kept Zo for 3 more years than Fletch for 1.
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Of course you are correct that he becomes a starter there. Good for him. But he will join a crappy team edition of a franchise that already typically is off-the-radar, meaning he will have little national exposure. Instead of fighting for glory in a sexy NFL division, he'll slip into obscurity in NFL Siberia.
for an extra 1.6MM garaunteed, can you blame him? 1.6MM to a guy like Lorenzo is alot more than 1.6MM to someone like Peyton Manning.

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"I was ready to sign back with the Redskins on Monday night, but it wound up not being close at all,” Alexander said in an exclusive, in-person interview at the NFL Players Association meetings in the Bahamas where he’s representing Washington. “They were offering $2.6 [million guaranteed] with an overall contract of $7.5 million over three years. The next day, they called back and said they would only guarantee $1.4 [million] of that. Dropping more than a million dollars overnight without any reason, I couldn’t take that money out of my kids’ mouths. Based on everything I’ve done [for] this organization, doing everything the right way, it was just a bad way to treat me. I understand the business, but … it didn’t sit right at all with me.”
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