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Old 03-18-2013, 11:32 AM   #46
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

Matt Forte is not a fan of the rule proposal, as he calls it "absurd."

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Old 03-20-2013, 08:38 AM   #47
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

More rule changes...can't overload more than 6 guys on FG's and PAT's. Not sure what they were thinking here. This is not a dangerous play at all.

O-linemen can't peel back and block once they're outside the tackle box. I guess we can call this the Brian Cushing rule. It seems like everythime someone gets hurt the league wants a new rule. In 10 years they'll just have flags. The Cushing injury could have been prevented had the o-linemen not gone for his knees. That should be the penalty.
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:46 PM   #48
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

Well the rule passed with a 31-1 vote. Stupid if you ask me.

NFL's new helmet contact rule takes aim at offensive players - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:07 AM   #49
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

How do you lower your shoulders without your head coming too?? if a ball carrier lowers his shoulders with complete intent with hitting with only his shoulders, but another guy coming full speed at him hits his head, is that a flag?? Do we expect a running back to run straight up and just get blasted by someone running full speed at him?

The same for vice versa for defensive players, when you are trying to hit a guy with you shoulder but he is moving at full speed as well and slightly moved and makes it a head to head hit .....I mean this is crazy to me. A blatent hit with the head under his chin on a guy is an easy call but when guys are going full speed its just impossible to control.

We are taking the tenacity out of the game. This is football these guys know what they are signing up for they have been outspoken and really dislike these rules. The old players that are retired trying to get money from the NFL are ruining it for guys now and Goodell i just cant take. There needs to be something signed that you cannont later try and sue the NFL.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

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Well the rule passed with a 31-1 vote. Stupid if you ask me.

NFL's new helmet contact rule takes aim at offensive players - NFL News | FOX Sports on MSN
Not surprised all, especially when the owners are doing the voting.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:48 AM   #51
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

This rule is going to make it really tough on the ball carriers. It's a tough rule to remember and adhere to. There are going to be a lot of bad calls surrounding this I bet. When a ball carrier tries to lower his head (instinct when a hit is coming) or lead with his shoulder, there will be a ton of instances where the refs INCORRECTLY interpret what they're seeing as leading with the head. Look how many complete B.S. calls we get with the "hit to the QB's head" rule.

Alfred Morris runs through every first tackler that gets to him...I really hope this stupid rule doesn't force him to change his running style.

No more Brandon Jacobs runs like this:



He made a career out of spearing people with the top of his helmet.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

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This rule is going to make it really tough on the ball carriers. It's a tough rule to remember and adhere to. There are going to be a lot of bad calls surrounding this I bet. When a ball carrier tries to lower his head (instinct when a hit is coming) or lead with his shoulder, there will be a ton of instances where the refs INCORRECTLY interpret what they're seeing as leading with the head. Look how many complete B.S. calls we get with the "hit to the QB's head" rule.

Alfred Morris runs through every first tackler that gets to him...I really hope this stupid rule doesn't force him to change his running style.

No more Brandon Jacobs runs like this:



He made a career out of spearing people with the top of his helmet.
If any of those were to garner a flag it would be an atrocity towards mankind.
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If any of those were to garner a flag it would be an atrocity towards mankind.
The only one that I think would be a penalty would be at the 35-36s mark. Otherwise, the rest were just solid running.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

I dislike this rule quite a bit, but also find the irony in the old players complaining about the rule.... while they have a lawsuit against the NFL over safety. I'm really thinking this is the beginning of the end for the NFL. It's a gladiator sport. When you make it too safe, it becomes boring.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

I guess I'm in the minority but I don't see this rule being a big deal. As long as as they focus on just calling blatant incidents of leading with the helmet, which doesn't happen all that often, and not get carried away with incidental stuff.

This is life in today's NFL. They can't stand by and not appear to be making an effort to reduce head injuries with all the looming legal action.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

According to Trent Richardson this is the play that the owners used as exhibit A. Basically its his fault according to Richardson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v2n3jOEYBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZ1_lPRw4g
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

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According to Trent Richardson this is the play that the owners used as exhibit A. Basically its his fault according to Richardson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v2n3jOEYBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZ1_lPRw4g
Nothing wrong with this play. Coleman needed to get down lower and hit him around the waist or knees. Either way he's still getting ran over cause he was being blocked and had no leverage.

This is really the worst rule I think I've ever seen. This is even worse than letting a wr catch the ball, then let him make a "football move" before he can be hit.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:44 PM   #58
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

I am sure there are a lot of flaws with the following thought but please read the whole idea before bashing it.

I would really rather the NFL have a "god crew", for lack of better term, that watches all the games at one location, and they have the ability to pause a game for 15-30 seconds and initiate a review/penalty on any medical/flagrant play. Take that bang/bang type penalty out of the on field ref's hands and centralize it to one or two crews of 3 refs that call everything the same on those.

to preempt a few criticisms:
-- "to hard to watch all the games" - with Sunday, Monday and Thursday night games all season there rarely is more than a handful of games at any one time slot, maybe eight early games, which with a crew of 3 g.refs would be 2-3 screens per time slot. If you watch redzone channel, you know it's doable, when you are only watching for flagrant knock'em out type shots.
-- "it will delay the games" - the pause would only occur on obvious kill shots, we saw that reviewing every turnover and scoring play wasn't too bad, and the ability to have a consistent call on 15yd blatant penalties would help the game far more than the occasional delay. Also on many kill shot type penalties the game slows to make sure both players involved are ok.

The pro's are, take bang/bang calls off the back of on field refs, get consistency in calls by reducing the number of refs making them, letting on field refs focus on the "integrity of football" type calls.

That's my pipe dream today.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

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According to Trent Richardson this is the play that the owners used as exhibit A. Basically its his fault according to Richardson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v2n3jOEYBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeZ1_lPRw4g
Watch how fast that happens, safety reads run and screws down in the box, engages blocker, then sidesteps to the open area and whamo! TR got into traffic ducked his head for a few more yards. bs rule. Nobody is at fault there.
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Re: New helmet conatct rule/proposal...I agree with Emmit Smith.

I mean what will happen when too guys smash the both tops of their heads, whos the flag on???? these guys move too fast to be able to dictate where the opponent is going. its rediculous, call the blatent stuff and let them play. This stems from retired players lawsuits, make these guys sign something as rookies, they know what they are getting into. If they don't want to take the risks then they can pursue another career. They are taking football away from us slowly.
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