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Old 03-25-2013, 11:47 PM   #211
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Winfield is better than Hall even though he is older. And he will get fewer dumb penalties. and he will cost less than, or at worst the same as, Hall. and we are exactly looking for a stop gap of 1-2 years while we invest heavily in young (ie drafted) CB talent.

For the life of me I don't understand why some are still making Hall out as an effective number 1 CB, he isn't that and he shouldn't be paid like one. If he wants to come back at #2 or nickel back money then fine, but otherwise he and FDavis can go tear it up in the AFC East.
Same is true of Winfield. I'm still talking about Hall at FS. CB should be high draft pick, not FA given our cap sitz.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:55 PM   #212
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man some people are pretty harsh on Hall, he is far from a good corner but we have to realize, our safeties on our roster right now other than merriweather are ass cheeks. Hall would be ok IMO with an actual starting NFL safety backing him up, with his style of play he gambles thats how he makes plays but when there is no chance of the safety even coming close to helping it shows much more....
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Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

BOLD PREDICTION: We sign Hall AND Winfield (after some more restructuring), and then take 5 CBs and safeties in the draft….
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BOLD PREDICTION: We sign Hall AND Winfield (after some more restructuring), and then take 5 CBs and safeties in the draft….
I've got us taking 4.
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Same is true of Winfield. I'm still talking about Hall at FS. CB should be high draft pick, not FA given our cap sitz.
Winfield's play hasn't declined. He'd be a good pickup on a short term contract. Unlike Hall, Winfield will actually tackle people.

Hall at FS would drive me crazy. I couldn't stand watching him, as our last line of defense, getting run over or avoiding tackling altogether. He plays football like a matador and I hate that.

You're right about one thing: CB should be a high draft pick. We should also sign one more vet on a short term deal.
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Winfield's play hasn't declined. He'd be a good pickup on a short term contract. Unlike Hall, Winfield will actually tackle people.

Hall at FS would drive me crazy. I couldn't stand watching him, as our last line of defense, getting run over or avoiding tackling altogether. He plays football like a matador and I hate that.

You're right about one thing: CB should be a high draft pick. We should also sign one more vet on a short term deal.
Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?
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Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?
It depends which game. Hall in one game will look great like against Dallas, then the next week will look awful, getting dragged by QB's and getting beat by third string receivers. Because Hall is so inconsistent, it just depends on which game you watch whether or not Hall will be good or bad, Hall isn't gaining much attention for a reason, because teams are not dumb enough to pay him almost 8 million like the skins would have, which is why they cut him.

Winfield would be a great value for the skins to sign depending on the price, a lot more valuable than Hall seeing as how Winfield graded out a lot better than Hall. Luckily the Skins are waiting for the market to settle which is what great teams do.

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It depends which game. Hall in one game will look great like against Dallas, then the next week will look awful, getting dragged by QB's and getting beat by third string receivers. Because Hall is so inconsistent, it just depends on which game you watch whether or not Hall will be good or bad, Hall is gaining much attention for a reason, because teams are not dumb enough to pay him almost 8 million like the skins would have, which is why they cut him.

Winfield would be a great value for the skins to sign depending on the price, a lot more valuable than Hall seeing as how Winfield graded out a lot better than Hall. Luckily the Skins are waiting for the market to settle which is what great teams do.
This is it in a nutshell. If Hall played at his top level every game(he won't), and kept stupidity off the field (he's been better of late), then maybe he would be worth keeping, but never at anywhere near what he was going to make, especially in a cap strapped year.
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Winfield's play hasn't declined. He'd be a good pickup on a short term contract. Unlike Hall, Winfield will actually tackle people.

Hall at FS would drive me crazy. I couldn't stand watching him, as our last line of defense, getting run over or avoiding tackling altogether. He plays football like a matador and I hate that.

You're right about one thing: CB should be a high draft pick. We should also sign one more vet on a short term deal.
Yeah not sure where this Hall at safety idea comes from. With his style of play he's best suited for corner. He gambles way too much. Who's to say if he would even want to play safety full time??
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Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?
I've seen every Redskins game and player since 1960 and Hall is no safety.
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Let's face it Hall or Winfield are both stop gaps. Even at his age Winfield is the better player and value.
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I don't think we would bring back Hall and sign Winfield. That would give us 5 CBs on the roster and two-three guys who could possibly be gone next year (Wilson, Hall, Winfield)

Wouldn't we be best served by adding one more vet to the secondary and drafting the rest?
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Yeah. I am pretty sure it's a choice between Hall or Winfield. Me, I go with Winfield in heartbeat.

Hall as a safety? It is to laugh.
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I don't think we would bring back Hall and sign Winfield. That would give us 5 CBs on the roster and two-three guys who could possibly be gone next year (Wilson, Hall, Winfield)

Wouldn't we be best served by adding one more vet to the secondary and drafting the rest?
That's most likely the plan.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:12 AM   #225
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I'd bring Hall back simply based on his knowledge of the system and the rest of the players on the D .. rather than Winfield learning our D.. the skill level is closely comparable and I just see someone who has lived this system for a few years as being a better fit than someone compareable in skill level.. but for us, it's all going to come down to the amount of $ each of these players is willing to sign for... I'm fine with Hall coming back, he played well down the stretch and could be teaching a rookie or two this system when we draft them.. IMO i think that might be the better of these 2 scenarios
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