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Old 03-26-2013, 07:42 PM   #271
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Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

i'd still like davis back. we're better with him.

and winfield would be a great stop gap. dude played well last year.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:06 PM   #272
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Hey I am not saying he would be a good saftey. But he was a very solid tackler. He made big time stops all year against the run. Tackling was his best talent.
That's an incredibly powerful indictment of his other skills.
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I'd look at K. Winslow as a backup if Davis isn't wanting to come back.
I would agree.
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Wouldn't it be fair to say that our lack of good safety play for the past few years has exposed Hall's weaknesses? I feel like a corner can only gamble effectively if he has help behind him.

For example, if Hall played with Sean Taylor (or Ed Reed) behind him, perhaps he would be more who he thinks he is.
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Wouldn't it be fair to say that our lack of good safety play for the past few years has exposed Hall's weaknesses? I feel like a corner can only gamble effectively if he has help behind him.

For example, if Hall played with Sean Taylor (or Ed Reed) behind him, perhaps he would be more who he thinks he is.
That sums it up nicely

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ST could make any corner look like an all pro.
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We still miss that guy and haven't had a player with half his skill at FS since he passed.
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The secondary (especially Hall) needed an improved pass rush. Still scratching my head with the Goldston re-signing. That seems like money that could've been saved.
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It may be that it was just a position group that they didn't want to mess with in the draft or FA knowing where the problems on the defense are. KG isn't great but he isn't a bad player either. He didn't cost much and can be cut if there is a replacement found which I doubt will happen this offseason.
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Looks like Griffin is doing some WR recruiting in the offseason. Might be worth a look in the supplemental draft.
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Wouldn't it be fair to say that our lack of good safety play for the past few years has exposed Hall's weaknesses? I feel like a corner can only gamble effectively if he has help behind him.

For example, if Hall played with Sean Taylor (or Ed Reed) behind him, perhaps he would be more who he thinks he is.

I said that all of last season. When Hall is getting beat...really, how many of these would be TDs with ANY capable safety help behind him?

We were playing guys like Pugh and Bernstein by the end of the year...who would be practice squad guys on most teams. Madieu Williams was toasted far more than anyone on the team.

If Meriweather and Jackson were starting all season, we might have been fine, but when our projected starters were basically on the shelf for every single game of the year...the talent level is very low. Williams, Gomes and Doughty were starters most of the season...that's not good.

Imagine this scenario in another position...at WR it would be like playing without Garcon and Moss all year...starting Morgan and who..Hankerson/Banks/Robinson all year. What if our best two CBs were out...Hall and Wilson...we would have been starting Cedric Griffin and who, Crawford all year?

No position can survive when your top two starters never see the field. unfortunately, when it happens at the safety position, it's going to be exploited for a lot of big TDs by opponents and it hurts the entire defense.

I've maintained that if we sure up the safety position with REAL talent, not band-aids, Hall and Wilson would be a great CB tandem. Wilson and Antoine Winfield could look great with good safeties behind them.

I hope we use our first couple of draft picks on safeties. That's the most urgent need on the team.

If by some miracle we can grab Matt Elam or Phillip Thomas in the 2nd...huge.

I hope Tyronn Matthieu is there for us in Round 4. If we could get him and D.J. Swearinger in the 3rd...great draft.

My dream draft, get two of those four guys...sign Winfield AND Hall...to move Hall to FS or keep for nickel duty. We can't count on Meriweather being on the field but if he is...HUGE bonus.

Play the better of the two rookies in camp at SS, Hall at FS. if Meriweather is healthy, start him and use Hall as the 3rd CB.

Suddenly, the secondary is solid.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:54 AM   #283
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I said that all of last season. When Hall is getting beat...really, how many of these would be TDs with ANY capable safety help behind him?

We were playing guys like Pugh and Bernstein by the end of the year...who would be practice squad guys on most teams. Madieu Williams was toasted far more than anyone on the team.

If Meriweather and Jackson were starting all season, we might have been fine, but when our projected starters were basically on the shelf for every single game of the year...the talent level is very low. Williams, Gomes and Doughty were starters most of the season...that's not good.

Imagine this scenario in another position...at WR it would be like playing without Garcon and Moss all year...starting Morgan and who..Hankerson/Banks/Robinson all year. What if our best two CBs were out...Hall and Wilson...we would have been starting Cedric Griffin and who, Crawford all year?

No position can survive when your top two starters never see the field. unfortunately, when it happens at the safety position, it's going to be exploited for a lot of big TDs by opponents and it hurts the entire defense.

I've maintained that if we sure up the safety position with REAL talent, not band-aids, Hall and Wilson would be a great CB tandem. Wilson and Antoine Winfield could look great with good safeties behind them.

I hope we use our first couple of draft picks on safeties. That's the most urgent need on the team.

If by some miracle we can grab Matt Elam or Phillip Thomas in the 2nd...huge.

I hope Tyronn Matthieu is there for us in Round 4. If we could get him and D.J. Swearinger in the 3rd...great draft.

My dream draft, get two of those four guys...sign Winfield AND Hall...to move Hall to FS or keep for nickel duty. We can't count on Meriweather being on the field but if he is...HUGE bonus.

Play the better of the two rookies in camp at SS, Hall at FS. if Meriweather is healthy, start him and use Hall as the 3rd CB.

Suddenly, the secondary is solid.
I agree 100% with the exception of playing Hall at FS. He doesnt seem to have that mentality to play there and with a competent FS he is a good corner which is where he belongs.

I would love that draft.
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Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.
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Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.
Some of us never will, as previously discussed.
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