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Old 03-27-2013, 09:37 AM   #271
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Wouldn't it be fair to say that our lack of good safety play for the past few years has exposed Hall's weaknesses? I feel like a corner can only gamble effectively if he has help behind him.

For example, if Hall played with Sean Taylor (or Ed Reed) behind him, perhaps he would be more who he thinks he is.

I said that all of last season. When Hall is getting beat...really, how many of these would be TDs with ANY capable safety help behind him?

We were playing guys like Pugh and Bernstein by the end of the year...who would be practice squad guys on most teams. Madieu Williams was toasted far more than anyone on the team.

If Meriweather and Jackson were starting all season, we might have been fine, but when our projected starters were basically on the shelf for every single game of the year...the talent level is very low. Williams, Gomes and Doughty were starters most of the season...that's not good.

Imagine this scenario in another position...at WR it would be like playing without Garcon and Moss all year...starting Morgan and who..Hankerson/Banks/Robinson all year. What if our best two CBs were out...Hall and Wilson...we would have been starting Cedric Griffin and who, Crawford all year?

No position can survive when your top two starters never see the field. unfortunately, when it happens at the safety position, it's going to be exploited for a lot of big TDs by opponents and it hurts the entire defense.

I've maintained that if we sure up the safety position with REAL talent, not band-aids, Hall and Wilson would be a great CB tandem. Wilson and Antoine Winfield could look great with good safeties behind them.

I hope we use our first couple of draft picks on safeties. That's the most urgent need on the team.

If by some miracle we can grab Matt Elam or Phillip Thomas in the 2nd...huge.

I hope Tyronn Matthieu is there for us in Round 4. If we could get him and D.J. Swearinger in the 3rd...great draft.

My dream draft, get two of those four guys...sign Winfield AND Hall...to move Hall to FS or keep for nickel duty. We can't count on Meriweather being on the field but if he is...HUGE bonus.

Play the better of the two rookies in camp at SS, Hall at FS. if Meriweather is healthy, start him and use Hall as the 3rd CB.

Suddenly, the secondary is solid.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:38 AM   #272
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I said that all of last season. When Hall is getting beat...really, how many of these would be TDs with ANY capable safety help behind him?

We were playing guys like Pugh and Bernstein by the end of the year...who would be practice squad guys on most teams. Madieu Williams was toasted far more than anyone on the team.

If Meriweather and Jackson were starting all season, we might have been fine, but when our projected starters were basically on the shelf for every single game of the year...the talent level is very low. Williams, Gomes and Doughty were starters most of the season...that's not good.

Imagine this scenario in another position...at WR it would be like playing without Garcon and Moss all year...starting Morgan and who..Hankerson/Banks/Robinson all year. What if our best two CBs were out...Hall and Wilson...we would have been starting Cedric Griffin and who, Crawford all year?

No position can survive when your top two starters never see the field. unfortunately, when it happens at the safety position, it's going to be exploited for a lot of big TDs by opponents and it hurts the entire defense.

I've maintained that if we sure up the safety position with REAL talent, not band-aids, Hall and Wilson would be a great CB tandem. Wilson and Antoine Winfield could look great with good safeties behind them.

I hope we use our first couple of draft picks on safeties. That's the most urgent need on the team.

If by some miracle we can grab Matt Elam or Phillip Thomas in the 2nd...huge.

I hope Tyronn Matthieu is there for us in Round 4. If we could get him and D.J. Swearinger in the 3rd...great draft.

My dream draft, get two of those four guys...sign Winfield AND Hall...to move Hall to FS or keep for nickel duty. We can't count on Meriweather being on the field but if he is...HUGE bonus.

Play the better of the two rookies in camp at SS, Hall at FS. if Meriweather is healthy, start him and use Hall as the 3rd CB.

Suddenly, the secondary is solid.
I agree 100% with the exception of playing Hall at FS. He doesnt seem to have that mentality to play there and with a competent FS he is a good corner which is where he belongs.

I would love that draft.
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Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.
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Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.
Some of us never will, as previously discussed.
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I really miss Verlon Biggs.
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Some of you guys need to get over this sean Taylor thing....that was six years ago.
Says someone using the name ALVIN WALTON.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:09 AM   #278
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Alvin Walton isnt dead and I doubt I've ever mentioned his name in this forum.
I do know of a lot of dead monkeys and I dont pine for them either.
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Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

there was a long and heated discussion before about the whole 'missing ST' thing... points were clearly made so no need to bring it back up and re hash it, theres two sides to the argument and in this case no one on either will budge an inch. let us continue to pay our respects in whatever fashion we'd like and move about your business.
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Alvin Walton isnt dead and I doubt I've ever mentioned his name in this forum.
I do know of a lot of dead monkeys and I dont pine for them either.
???? That maybe a really bad choice of words.
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Alvin Walton isnt dead and I doubt I've ever mentioned his name in this forum.
I do know of a lot of dead monkeys and I dont pine for them either.
Hey now. Not cool.


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???? That maybe a really bad choice of words.
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You think the Skins give a player #21 this year?
Not a chance.
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..........Oh sure...who does not miss Cheetah?
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You think the Skins give a player #21 this year?
I don't know if they will ever allow that number to be used again. If they do it will be a few (10+) before they do.
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There are a few numbers that should never be used again. #21 is one of them along with 9, 44, 28, 33(not sure if officially retired) 81 and probably a few more that I didn't mention
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