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Old 03-29-2013, 05:43 PM   #406
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I think moreso praise should be given in tons to the FO. They showed the restraint regardless of the penalty. We could have done a lot of upfront restructuring and extending of contracts at the start of FA that would have simply kept pushing the penalty forward, They made hard decisions and stuck with a general philosophy that looks at more than just this year.

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I completely agree. They deserve a lot of kudos for soaking it up now and not pushing the problem into the future. I think it is great watching the Cowboys make the mistakes we have made in the past. I predict that team will be a train wreck in about 2-3 years.
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We can easily make over 40MM in cap room next year. Thats enough to sign quite a few "long term solutions." I'm fine with rolling with a couple old guys this year, so long as they still perform and we can afford them.
I'm fine with it to, I was just saying. But yeah, next year we'll be able to sign some quality free agents, not these mid tier guys we're trying to squeeze value out of.

By the way, how do you come up with the 40MM number? I'm not contesting, but that seems like quite a bit of room.
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No, it wasn't a blessing in disguise. It hurt us. It probably cost us a chance at signing Vincent Jackson last season and a chance at signing a top-notch RT to help protect RGIII this season.

I think that the Skins are a well-managed team now. And I believe that the Skins executives would have made wise and prudent decisions if we had not been penalized by the NFL.

I aspecially agree with the bolded statement
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:28 PM   #409
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I completely agree. They deserve a lot of kudos for soaking it up now and not pushing the problem into the future. I think it is great watching the Cowboys make the mistakes we have made in the past. I predict that team will be a train wreck in about 2-3 years.
Id venture to say that they already are a train-wreck.

YOUR 2013 DALLAS COWBOYS!!!!!!

A severely overpaid old QB that ALWAYS folds under pressure, a WR that smacks his mother into next week, a ridiculously porous OLine, a uber hands on owner that doesn't know football guys all too well, substance abuse run amuck, a young star that loves his DUI's, a young underacheiving and now over-rated head coach who is a pawn of said owner, and an aging DWare that is a shell of his former self. Not to mention their dumbass fans.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:10 PM   #410
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As far as Urlacher and Fletcher talk. Let me make this as simple as possible for you. Fletcher has yet to miss a game. Urlacher misses many games every year now.
He's missed games in 3 out of the 14 years he's been in the league. Now he's misses games every year now?


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Exactly. Fletcher is playing out of his mind and Urlacher is a shadow of his former self.

Have you all lost your mind?


Did you miss this?

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...top-rates.html (FO: Best and Worst Run Stop Rates 2012)


Brian Urlacher was high on the list for being one of the best run stoppers. Fletcher on the other hand was near the bottom.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | Best and Worst Run Stop Rates 2012


You guys have completely ignored reality in favor of Fletch. The guy is a great leader, but he's a huge liability now. Guess what, it's not getting any better.
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At least he's likely to retire after this season.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:12 PM   #412
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I'm pretty positive that I just read how urlacher was, statistically, the worst player on their defense last year. Bleacher report I think.
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I'm pretty positive that I just read how urlacher was, statistically, the worst player on their defense last year. Bleacher report I think.
Bleacher report? By that measure, he was likely statistically the best player on their defensive squad.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:16 PM   #414
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Signing urlacher would be something vinny would do. Probably give him a 30 million dollar contract too. I think the next linebacker to play for the skins will be drafted and developed by the skins, at least they will do that if they are smart. Fletcher does need to be phased out and replaced though. Sad reality of the NFL.
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Signing urlacher would be something vinny would do. Probably give him a 30 million dollar contract too. I think the next linebacker to play for the skins will be drafted and developed by the skins, at least they will do that if they are smart. Fletcher does need to be phased out and replaced though. Sad reality of the NFL.
Not sure I was championing for Urlacher's signing, more of pointing out that if Chicago wouldn't even keep their future HoFer for 3 mil, than why the hell are we keeping Fletch for over 5+ mil? Urlacher statistically rated better than Fletcher did last season. I would rather have Urlacher at 2.5 mil than Fletcher at 5.9 mil.





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Those 3 years he's missed games were in the past 3 years.
Uhh....wut?


Not sure you quite understand, so let me put it another way.

Urlacher missed games in only 3 years of his 14 year career. Those 3 years were 2004, 2009, 2012. Not sue how those 3 years were in the past 3 years. Did you not look at the link to his stat page?

Now, your claim is he misses games every year isn't just far fetched, it's ridiculous.
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Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

flecth was pretty bad while he was hurt for the first 7 games or so. he was better at the end of last year. that said, sooner or later someone else is going to have to take his place.
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Old 03-30-2013, 12:46 AM   #417
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we've retained 21 of 22 starters on a playoff team that showed dramatic improvement in the 2nd half of the season. Our only loss was a mediocre starting cornerback. we've added some cheap depth, resigned our core guys, and the draft hasnt even happened yet. Despite the cap penalty, its hard for me not to be optomistic about our chances entering the 2013 season.
Couldn't agree more. And I'll take your one mediocre starting cb and raise you two stud d linemen. With the addition of carriker and osackpo returning from injury our d line should be much improved. And with Davis now returning on offense that's another upgrade over last year. All in all I agree with you it's hard not to be a little bit optimistic about our upcoming season.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:37 AM   #418
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We already have an aged vetran in the middle, I don't see the point in adding another. Bringing in a young guy to learn behind Fletch on the other hand is a great idea.
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so any word on what FDavis contract is? and any word on Winfield?

Wouldn't surprise me to learn TW restructured to clear room for FDavis. I just get the sense that he Fred and Griffin have strong bonds amongst them
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Per the criticism of Fletch, especially regarding his tackle stats, allow me to retort.

When we run the more traditional 3-4 base, especially on early downs, you have to account for the fact we don't have a D line that commands multiple double-teams, and sometimes not even one double-team. Bowen is probably our best D lineman, and while I've seen o lines assign two blockers to him it's not consistent because a good LT will handle Bowen alone. There's certainly nobody on the D-line who offensive lines consistently see fit to assign two blockers. In short, there's always, always at least one o-lineman, and often two o-lineman headed to the 2nd level to block and they obviously key on Fletch.

Compare that to the D lines of Pitt and Baltimore, both having personnel up front always requiring two blockers. And the bottom line is something I've said a long time:
We...don't...have...the...right...personnel to run the 3-4 successfully. Period. If our base front 7 was always Kerrigan, Cofield, Turd Ferguson, Orakpo on the line and Riley, Fletcher, Rob Jackson behind we'd be a better run-stopping defense and most definitely a better pressure defense.

Regardless, our run defense isn't as bad as this one stat would lead someone to believe. Most of the time when Fletch gets blocked Riley or another steps into the gap to make the tackle, so focusing on this one stat is like staring at a tree in the forest. Secondary was/is the real problem, and that has everything to do with lacking a FS who can capitalize on bad throws etc.
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