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Old 04-06-2013, 02:16 PM   #676
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Winfield is a better CB/DB than what we have now. He's just a great defender. If we sign him it gives us flexibility in the draft if we can't get one of our top targeted DBs. Also it can help us possibly trade a guy like josh Wilson. Or cut DHall. Or just have a lot of talented DBs.

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Old 04-06-2013, 02:27 PM   #677
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Winfield is a better CB/DB than what we have now. He's just a great defender. If we sign him it gives us flexibility in the draft if we can't get one of our top targeted DBs. Also it can help us possibly trade a guy like josh Wilson. Or cut DHall. Or just have a lot of talented DBs.
Yes sir, that is huge. This way we have a better chance of drafting BPA starter talent at any position. Much better than reaching for need and increasing the chance of drafting a bust. The wildcard risk in this move is Winfield's age/health to $ cost. Like any move it is a gamble.
Winfield is a player, CB position would go from below average weakness to above average strength.

At Safety: Draft a safety. Tanard comes back from suspension for cheap (?), Brandon Meriweather comes back from injury (?), Jordan Bernstein and Dejon Gomes step up/mature (?), ok depth with Doughty and Pugh.
With deeper CB position it increases flexibility to occasionally play DHall at safety in dime or nickle.

We pay for our rookies and Winfield by reworking a Trent Williams, Garcon, Josh Wilson deal. Not by cutting.
Next year our cap will have a windfall with the removal of the penalty.

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Old 04-06-2013, 04:47 PM   #678
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We pay for our rookies and Winfield by reworking a Trent Williams, Garcon, Josh Wilson deal. Not by cutting.
Next year our cap will have a windfall with the removal of the penalty.
Therein lies the beauty of Shanahan / Bruce. They certainly could have made a ton of magic cap room this year, simply by restructuring a ton of deals like Cerrato used to do. They still can if necessary. But at least we're not rushing to win the offseason out of the gates with seemingly unlimited cap space -- leaving restructured dead space for years to come.

Takes a ton of patience to avoid doing that, reassuring everyone the sky isn't falling on the O-line or secondary, and taking guys like Trueblood and Pashos instead of the highest paid FA out there. Cerrato would have spent a couple of draft picks and $50 million dollars last year when Merriweather / Jackson went out of the picture last year. I remember when we threw away a 3rd rounder for TJ Duckett because Portis hurt his shoulder the week before the season opener, then went on to run for 132 yards -- all season.. Talk about irrational paranoia.

Glad to see we have a hard-nosed front office who doesn't panic and seems to always look ahead.
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IMO we have a FO that has the credentials to tell our owner relax we got this.
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Well here's an oh sh!ter for y'all.

@BurgundyBlog: Not good. RT @seankjensen: Antoine Winfield is expected to visit the Seahawks early next week.


Of all teams to...
Talk about over kill in that secondary, but that'd be a hell of a task to play against that defense when healthy if that were to happen.
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That seems like way overkill for those guys. But whatever, the rich keep getting richer.

I would take the kid who won ROY over the runner up personally. Of course it would be such sweet revenge to beat the Hawks in the playoffs next year at SEA if he signed there. HAHAHAHAHA.
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Well here's an oh sh!ter for y'all.

@BurgundyBlog: Not good. RT @seankjensen: Antoine Winfield is expected to visit the Seahawks early next week.


Of all teams to...
Seems like he would want to go to a place where he would start, not play nickel and dime packages. You know he's not going to get ahead of Seattle's two starting CBs. He has a good likelihood of starting here. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:12 AM   #683
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FENNO: Pat White return to NFL would set troubling precedent - Washington Times


Anybody know this about Pat White? He had a lawsuit against the NFL for failure to protect him from head injuries. Really? This douche bag has the nerve to sue the NFL for head injuries and he was only in the league for one damn year. Not only that, he barely played. Now, after 4 years, he's decided his head injuries are ok so he's back to trying out for the NFL again?


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FENNO: Pat White return to NFL would set troubling precedent - Washington Times


Anybody know this about Pat White? He had a lawsuit against the NFL for failure to protect him from head injuries. Really? This douche bag has the nerve to sue the NFL for head injuries and he was only in the league for one damn year. Not only that, he barely played. Now, after 4 years, he's decided his head injuries are ok so he's back to trying out for the NFL again?


**** this guy.
I am a WVU fan, but that honestly I have forgotten about White as a pro because he did nothing. NOTHING, I actually watched Dolphins preseason games that year ('09) to see him play, he was bad or at least very underwhelming compared to what he did at WVU. He looked lost, couldn't read the defense, made bad throws, and he had a little razzle in the running game but he is small and knew he wouldn't last in the NFL.

The conspiracy theorists in me wonders if the Redskins will get something on the back end now that they rid the NFL of a law suit. (yeah right)

BUT.... JOEREDSKIN maybe be able to (hypothetically) answer if this would set a precedent of any kind for the other cases against the NFL?
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Re: Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

Browner and the other asshole (Sherman) are UFAs next year I believe.
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Well here's an oh sh!ter for y'all.

@BurgundyBlog: Not good. RT @seankjensen: Antoine Winfield is expected to visit the Seahawks early next week.


Of all teams to...
Bet they talk shit about FedEx.... (I know he played there in '12 & '11)

Wonder if it would scare away FAs. If RG III can attract them then FedEx could send em running.
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We've seen time and again that putting a high priced FA into a different system may bite you in the a$$. I had a feeling that CB's were different, because cover skills should translate to different systems -> but Nnamdi is a recent example where it can backfire.

However, it is enticing to see a secondary that includes: Winfield, Wilson, Hall, Biggers, with a healthy Merriweather and sober Jackson backing them up. Then a couple of draft picks and vets.. There'd still be big issues, but last year we scored 27 ppg (#4) and gave up 24ppg (#22) -- any defensive improvement from last year could keep us contenders for the playoffs and a lucky streak would get us into the SuperBowl.


I'd hate to see Winfield go to Seattle. If they keep their team together, it looks like we're going to have to go through them for the next decade to get to the SuperBowl.
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We've seen time and again that putting a high priced FA into a different system may bite you in the a$$. I had a feeling that CB's were different, because cover skills should translate to different systems -> but Nnamdi is a recent example where it can backfire.

However, it is enticing to see a secondary that includes: Winfield, Wilson, Hall, Biggers, with a healthy Merriweather and sober Jackson backing them up. Then a couple of draft picks and vets.. There'd still be big issues, but last year we scored 27 ppg (#4) and gave up 24ppg (#22) -- any defensive improvement from last year could keep us contenders for the playoffs and a lucky streak would get us into the SuperBowl.


I'd hate to see Winfield go to Seattle. If they keep their team together, it looks like we're going to have to go through them for the next decade to get to the SuperBowl.
A healthy Griffin and we win that game 38-21 or something. Seattle can be beaten.
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We've seen time and again that putting a high priced FA into a different system may bite you in the a$$. I had a feeling that CB's were different, because cover skills should translate to different systems -> but Nnamdi is a recent example where it can backfire.

However, it is enticing to see a secondary that includes: Winfield, Wilson, Hall, Biggers, with a healthy Merriweather and sober Jackson backing them up. Then a couple of draft picks and vets.. There'd still be big issues, but last year we scored 27 ppg (#4) and gave up 24ppg (#22) -- any defensive improvement from last year could keep us contenders for the playoffs and a lucky streak would get us into the SuperBowl.


I'd hate to see Winfield go to Seattle. If they keep their team together, it looks like we're going to have to go through them for the next decade to get to the SuperBowl.
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Seattle doesn't scare me.

Besides Seattle is going to have to go through us I they want to make a Superbowl. The NFC goes through SF for the time being.
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