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Old 03-30-2013, 01:49 PM   #61
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In all fairness though, it IS possible that Romo and the Boys could put together one good season and roll to the Super Bowl. It's not like they don't have any weapons. They are a playoff caliber team and anything's possible.
Year in and year out the Cowboys are always overrated. Fact is they haven't had a winning season now since 2009 and they're only getting older. They're 22-26 the last 3 seasons. Not really playoff caliber in my book.
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:56 PM   #62
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As if there wasn't enough pressure already, and we all know how well he handles it lol

Pressure now on Tony Romo to make good - NFC East Blog - ESPN

1-6 in elimination games lol
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:14 PM   #63
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Vinny... is that you?

55 mil guaranteed to someone that will be 33 before the season starts is crazy. Especially when he has had solid teams around him in the past and couldnt come through. Im sick of listening to the whole argument that Dallas has never had a good player except Tony Romo since he has been there. Thats just outright nonsense. The Cowboys in his early years had better talent around Romo than RG3 had this past year. Given the injuries to key players this past year (Garcon, Davis, ect), that makes it even worse.

QB's arent overpaid in this league. They are the most important piece. But unless they have won you SB's or even gotten to some conference championships, you dont give a 33 year old that amount of guaranteed money. The Cowboys are already in salary cap purgatory, now they are in even deeper with a QB that will be in decline. At 33, I doubt he is going to get better.

The Cowboys need a major overhaul, so anytime they keep an aging vet and sign him to an uncuttable for 3 or 4 years contract, they are making matters worse, not better (Better if looking at it from a Redskins standpoint).

Since the whole Tony Romo has never had a good team around him argument is always used. What changes this year then? What exactly are you seeing in Dallas that makes you think Romo will now get over the hump?

Since that argument dictates that they wont win anything, why not move on and try to get your cap in order while drafting some young pieces who will EVENTUALLY win?

If you want to defend the move because you hate Dallas and think its funny, then be my guest (I do). But you seem to be saying that its a "good move" for that franchise... I couldnt disagree more. They are better off losing 12 games instead of 8 for a couple of years and building with higher draft picks.

Plain and simple, Romo's contract is a Vinny move. And Vinny moves have been proven to not work in the first year, and cost the team dearly in dead cap in later years. Im glad its now the Cowboys doing those contracts and not us anymore.
If I was a cowboy fan, his age would bother me much more than the dollars. I havn't seen how the 55 mil is structured, but they could be taking a big cap hit in years 4 on for a seriously declining player. Worse yet, this move indicates they either won't or can't afford to use a top pick for a long term replacement unless they want to cut other parts of the team even more.

As an example, lets say they draft someone in the second round this year. That persons rookie contract would be ending while a 37 year old tony is still taking up huge cap dollars. It would force them to cut tony in order to sign the guy they drafted and still have dead space.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:16 PM   #64
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Dez Bryant's rookie deal is up in 2015. I'm sure he'll be looking for a big payday or take his services elsewhere ala Percy Harvin.
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Old 03-30-2013, 02:32 PM   #65
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As if there wasn't enough pressure already, and we all know how well he handles it lol

Pressure now on Tony Romo to make good - NFC East Blog - ESPN

1-6 in elimination games lol
Graziano's article pretty sums it up pretty well. Romo's a very good QB September to December, but, to be worth this contract, he has to find a way to extend that to January.

Personally, I just don't think he has it in him. Maybe I am wrong, bit I sure as hell hope not.
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:03 PM   #66
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Guess there's a certain threshold below "elite", where a good QB is still considered irreplaceable to a team. E. Manning, Flacco, now Romo.

Wow, the Pats got such a discount on Brady. Wonder how much of a discount the Packers will get on Rodgers. (I think getting the same deal as Flacco, would be a bargain for Rodgers.)
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Old 03-30-2013, 03:17 PM   #67
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I'm with HG28, it's skewing the market.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:02 PM   #68
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As if there wasn't enough pressure already, and we all know how well he handles it lol

Pressure now on Tony Romo to make good - NFC East Blog - ESPN

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That says it all about Romo.
Peyton Manning also falls in this category a little bit. Great regular season player but tends to throw too many interceptions and turnovers in the playoffs. Manning and Romo become too one dimensional and throw the ball way too much for their won good.
It is not coincidence that the Ravens, 49ers, Seahawks and Redskins have a good running game to compliment a good passing game. The Cowboys do not. The Cowboys desperately need to rebuild their OL but continue to draft other positions. It is the Vinny Cerratto syndrome of undervaluing the need for a strong O-line and running game.
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Let's hear what McNobody has to say about this contract.

Donovan McNabb Is Really Mad At Tony Romo's New Bazillion-Dollar Contract
The guy is classless. Hard to believe we didn't see it before when he was a media darling. He's actually the reason when I'm channel surfing that I don't stay on NFL Network seeing as how Playbook, one of my all time favorite shows before McNabb, is on usually when I get back from work.
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Old 03-30-2013, 04:52 PM   #70
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That says it all about Romo.
Peyton Manning also falls in this category a little bit. Great regular season player but tends to throw too many interceptions and turnovers in the playoffs. Manning and Romo become too one dimensional and throw the ball way too much for their won good.
It is not coincidence that the Ravens, 49ers, Seahawks and Redskins have a good running game to compliment a good passing game. The Cowboys do not. The Cowboys desperately need to rebuild their OL but continue to draft other positions. It is the Vinny Cerratto syndrome of undervaluing the need for a strong O-line and running game.
I wouldn't compare one of best quarterbacks of all time to tony romo.
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The guy is classless. Hard to believe we didn't see it before when he was a media darling. He's actually the reason when I'm channel surfing that I don't stay on NFL Network seeing as how Playbook, one of my all time favorite shows before McNabb, is on usually when I get back from work.
Yeah I don't care much for him either
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:26 PM   #72
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It's alot like the Flacco contract. IMO unless the guy is in that top 5 echelon of QBs. The team is sacrificing quite a few good players around them for their contracts. Your giving these guys 15% of your cap on average, for the life of these deals.
I don't see how this is like the Flacco contract. Flacco just won the Ravens a SB, while Romo did another one of this major choke jobs last seasons. But whatever, I don't mind seeing the Cowpukes making terrible decisions.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:43 PM   #73
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Flacco at least won a SB and has a bunch of playoff wins. I'm fine with him getting paid.

Romo with one playoff win, it's just hard to justify making him a $100M QB in my mind.
How many playoff wins and SB wins a guy has doesn't matter when you're determining his worth. Teams don't even consider it. As they shouldn't.

Age though is something that all teams consider, and there's a big difference between 28 and 33. The final four years of this deal are going to be mostly noise, but I think the Cowboys are going to regret somewhat giving Romo starting quarterback job security through 2015. I don't think they'll be very competitive in our division over that timeframe.

I think the bigger news here is that the Cowboys are all in for 2013. After that point, they're basically going to be the post Al Davis Raiders. They can only improve their team through the draft and they are going to lose veteran pieces that could still help because of contractual issues.
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Looking at the contract, it's clear Romo is their QB through 2015. In the 4th year the cap hit for cutting him v. keeping him looks about the same. Year 5, is the first year of the contract that his release hit is significantly smaller than the hit for keeping him.
Of course, if they have to restructure in years two or three, they could be stuck with him an extra year.
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Old 03-30-2013, 07:13 PM   #75
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How many playoff wins and SB wins a guy has doesn't matter when you're determining his worth. Teams don't even consider it. As they shouldn't.

Age though is something that all teams consider, and there's a big difference between 28 and 33. The final four years of this deal are going to be mostly noise, but I think the Cowboys are going to regret somewhat giving Romo starting quarterback job security through 2015. I don't think they'll be very competitive in our division over that timeframe.

I think the bigger news here is that the Cowboys are all in for 2013. After that point, they're basically going to be the post Al Davis Raiders. They can only improve their team through the draft and they are going to lose veteran pieces that could still help because of contractual issues.
As I stated earlier. I think either Jason Witten, DeMarcus Ware, or Miles Austin will be gone in two years.
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