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Old 06-02-2013, 10:19 PM   #466
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Re: Official Redskins Off-Season News & Rumors-Part Trois

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Not really sure you can fault RGII for speaking out about the Shanahans using III as a runner so often. It's common sense that it will shorten his career, period. But while the results are there I think a lot of media types will hold back criticism.

I hope RG3 is spending lots of time with his teammates and focusing on leadership over stardom.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:29 PM   #467
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Not really sure you can fault RGII for speaking out about the Shanahans using III as a runner so often. It's common sense that it will shorten his career, period. But while the results are there I think a lot of media types will hold back criticism.

I hope RG3 is spending lots of time with his teammates and focusing on leadership over stardom.
Goat, the pieces about RG II in the story was really not the point of posting article. The rest of it was the real meat and potatoes, but I don't think his dad laid any information in the coaching staff that they didn't already know.

As far as te kid spending time at redskins park and with his teammates all you have to do is read everything written about what he has been doing in the offseason and where he spends all of his time to see that is exactly what he is doing.

I know you read Goat, it's all out there.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:09 AM   #468
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Explain this Redskins-name supporters...
The Racist Redskins - The Daily Beast
I could, but seriously, that article is not worth my time. If you are going throw opinions out there and try to call them facts you need to back it up with evidence. That article is just one man's opinion.
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I can't even bring myself to read another article on this bogus name issue.

When does training camp open?
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:27 AM   #470
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I can't even bring myself to read another article on this bogus name issue.

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Not soon enough
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:45 AM   #471
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Change the name of this site to 'The Groupthink'. Or is that offensive? Just passing along information from a new angle. Or did everyone else know about this "bogus" story?
What is the "new angle" exactly?

Looks like the same old stale argument to me.
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:47 AM   #472
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So where are your "facts" and evidence? Oh yeah, don't waste your time. Ignorance is easier.
I don't have facts and evidence, I just have my opinion. My opinion is this: If you are not an American Indian, I don't care what your opinion is on the name. If the majority of American Indians were offended by the name and wanted it changed, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I've read up on the issue, and the two biggest things for me are this: A Smithsonian historian who has studied the origins of the name is of the belief that American Indians created the name to distinguish themselves from the white man. I am at work so I'm not going to bother trying to find the article, but it exists, and I know there are others that have read it too, so if you don't believe me feel free to look for it.

And the second thing is this: Multiple polls have suggested that the majority of American Indians do not care about the name. Call it what you want but until those factors are changed, and evidence has come out that the name is intended to offend American Indians, and most American Indians are offended by the name, I will continue to support the team that I love using the name. End of discussion for me. I don't care what some inane columnist thinks about the name. Call it ignorance if you want, I'm just tired of this topic.
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This name change shit gets so old. It's not going to happen
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Old 06-03-2013, 10:58 AM   #474
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Explain this Redskins-name supporters...
The Racist Redskins - The Daily Beast
There's no doubt that Marshall was a racist in regards to the black race. No one denies he was a racist, just that the name, as it has been recognized by both Native Americans in a recent poll, and the general public as well, is not identified as an offensive term.

Ultimately all these arguments are not new. When a law is passed, or patent cancelled, that will be news - until then it's just media harrassment and spin.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:08 AM   #475
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I still think all of these articles are written by secret Cowboy fans. BTW I think the name "Cowboy" is offensive. They should be called "Ranch-hands". There, someone needs to write an article on the offensive "Cowboy" name.
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Explain this Redskins-name supporters...
The Racist Redskins - The Daily Beast
Sure, he's completely wrong on the history of the Redskins for one thing, and secondly, he's made a lot of assumption out to be fact when he has no proof backing up those claims.

I thought every Redskins fan knew the history of their favorite team?
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:34 AM   #477
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The article, for whatever reason, tries to redirect me after 5 seconds so I cant read it. However, it seems that the argument in based around George Preston Marshall, so Im going with that angle.

Doesnt the Rooney rule kind of mitigate the whole owner being racist angle?

The fact that Marshall was the last to integrate his team doesnt change that most of the owners, if not all, were racist at that time. And a fair amount today still are, as evidenced by the Rooney rule. When you have to make a rule that requires non-whites to be interviewed, doesnt that mean that racism still exists today in the NFL. If it exists today, why go all the way back to Marshall to find racism in the NFL.

More importantly, by only singling out Marshall, doesnt that mean that the people using that as an argument are more than willing to justify racism to make a point against the Washington Redskins? Which, in and of itself, is racist.

But hey, dont let racism stand in your way of making an argument against a racist.
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:20 PM   #478
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Well I guess we should throw this in as well

Retired Patawomeck chief says he’d be offended if Redskins change name
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Old 06-03-2013, 12:44 PM   #479
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The other day on NFL Sirius radio, Ross and Bob Poppa were debating this.

They had Chief Robert two feathers Green on the show, it was one of te first times I have actually heard from an Indian on the subject. After his call there were multiple callers who called in claiming to be native Americans and not one calle the term offensive nor did they care I the name was changed or not. There were a couple who dislike the Redskins, but that was because they were Cowboys fans not because of the name Redskins.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:22 PM   #480
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Maybe we could do a.....provisional ban until the start of training camp?
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