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Old 06-03-2013, 01:34 PM   #481
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Walter Wetzel was President of National Congress of American Indians from 1960-1964 as well as being Chairman for the Blackfoot Indians. He went to the Redskins office with pictures of Indians asking that the Redskins use these images to help design a new helmet logo.

Here is an article from the Washington Post back in 2002 by Marc Fisher, where he interviewed Walter Wetzel as part of his article. Wapo has made it so the article is no longer viewable (I guess Mike Wise has more clout there than we thought), so you have to view it through second hand sources, such as this one. But I found multiple sources with this very same article. The relevant info is in the last couple of paragraphs.

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Old 06-03-2013, 03:59 PM   #482
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It is my sincerest hope as I have feared the appearance of the.....Jay Cutler gene............
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You see Cutler in RG, or did I misunderstand?
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:04 PM   #483
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Goat, the pieces about RG II in the story was really not the point of posting article. The rest of it was the real meat and potatoes, but I don't think his dad laid any information in the coaching staff that they didn't already know.

As far as te kid spending time at redskins park and with his teammates all you have to do is read everything written about what he has been doing in the offseason and where he spends all of his time to see that is exactly what he is doing.

I know you read Goat, it's all out there.
Admittedly I haven't read much about how RG is spending the off-season, though the tidbits I see are more about celeb events etc. And you have to give him full benefit of the doubt at this point because he's rehabbing so it's not like he can practice with his WRs/TEs all off-season. But ultimately, that's what we wanna see, right? Especially if he's to become an elite passer (first) and running threat (second), that chemistry needs to be there.

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I still think all of these articles are written by secret Cowboy fans. BTW I think the name "Cowboy" is offensive. They should be called "Ranch-hands". There, someone needs to write an article on the offensive "Cowboy" name.
LOL well played sir, well played.
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Walter Wetzel was President of National Congress of American Indians from 1960-1964 as well as being Chairman for the Blackfoot Indians. He went to the Redskins office with pictures of Indians asking that the Redskins use these images to help design a new helmet logo.

Here is an article from the Washington Post back in 2002 by Marc Fisher, where he interviewed Walter Wetzel as part of his article. Wapo has made it so the article is no longer viewable (I guess Mike Wise has more clout there than we thought), so you have to view it through second hand sources, such as this one. But I found multiple sources with this very same article. The relevant info is in the last couple of paragraphs.

Indianz.Com - American Indians Among Admirers Of Redskins Name
Thanks for finding that.
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Admittedly I haven't read much about how RG is spending the off-season, though the tidbits I see are more about celeb events etc. And you have to give him full benefit of the doubt at this point because he's rehabbing so it's not like he can practice with his WRs/TEs all off-season. But ultimately, that's what we wanna see, right? Especially if he's to become an elite passer (first) and running threat (second), that chemistry needs to be there.

That's all.
His celeb events are fine with me honestly. He isnt jet setting all across the country all the time, and not putting in his work. If he wants to spend his "free" time that way more power to him.

I would love for him to be spending time throwing to all of his guys and so on and so forth. I am sure if he was healthy he would be doing some of that stuff. Since that isn't the situation then it is hard to get on him at all when he is doing what he should be.
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Awesome of the Redskins to oblige.

Thanks for sharing that with us.
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Congratulations to him and his family and my I say Thank You for your service.
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I wonder if Lt. Kettani makes it on the active roster this year.

Would he be the first Lt. to ever make an NFL roster?

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the answer is no. usually they turn pro athlete military into touring recruiters and reservists or whatever. a couple years ago detroit i think the navy pulled an officer from detroit since he was only going to make the practice squad.
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Explain this Redskins-name supporters...
The Racist Redskins - The Daily Beast
The author of your article needs to check the actual facts.

Short version: You're wrong. The name Redskins isn't racist.

Medium version: The name Redskins wasn't racist when it was coined. It wasn't racist when the team adopted it for a variety of reasons. The people who actually use it now.. HTTR! People who think it's derogatory just can't seem to realize it was adopted and used by the team to root for and identify with, not against. "Redskins" isn't racist now, except for the people making themselves look like racists in protesting the name.

Long version: Well, here's a starter about the name's origins. Refutes some of the falsehoods that anti-Redskins protestors have made.

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf
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The author of your article needs to check the actual facts.

Short version: You're wrong. The name Redskins isn't racist.

Medium version: The name Redskins wasn't racist when it was coined. It wasn't racist when the team adopted it for a variety of reasons. The people who actually use it now.. HTTR! People who think it's derogatory just can't seem to realize it was adopted and used by the team to root for and identify with, not against. "Redskins" isn't racist now, except for the people making themselves look like racists in protesting the name.

Long version: Well, here's a starter about the name's origins. Refutes some of the falsehoods that anti-Redskins protestors have made.

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf
I think the team also took on the name to pay homage to the red sox when they started sharing Fenway park in 1933. It was a nice way to use the Red from red sox and still maintain the native american theme from when they were the Boston Braves.
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The author of your article needs to check the actual facts.

Short version: You're wrong. The name Redskins isn't racist.

Medium version: The name Redskins wasn't racist when it was coined. It wasn't racist when the team adopted it for a variety of reasons. The people who actually use it now.. HTTR! People who think it's derogatory just can't seem to realize it was adopted and used by the team to root for and identify with, not against. "Redskins" isn't racist now, except for the people making themselves look like racists in protesting the name.

Long version: Well, here's a starter about the name's origins. Refutes some of the falsehoods that anti-Redskins protestors have made.

http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

This Person doesn't agree with you.Hit the link to read the whole article.


Indianz.Com > Doug George-Kanentiio: A Mohawk's perspective on 'Redskins'

Altogether, the Mohawk Nation lost over 9,000,000 acres of land, an area which includes Cooperstown and all of the Adirondacks. This was done without our consent. In order to rationalize the theft of the land falsehoods were created which de-humanized our people. We were no longer friends but demons. We were labeled as savages and cannibals, warlike primitives without intellect. Among the most tragic of profanes were those books used in schools, which grossly distorted our history and passed on terrible lies about us.

The use of “redskins” was among the worse of these labels. That word originally referred to the Beothuks of Newfoundland, a peaceful people who colored their skin with red ochre as adornment and to keep the mosquitoes at bay. Their passivity was mistaken for weakness and after the waves of European diseases killed most of them those who survived were hunted and murdered for sport. By 1830 they were extinct. One of the reprehensible tactics was to remove the skins of the Beothuks and use them as covers for books and as leggings for the hunters.

This act of skinning Native people, both men and women, continued on along the frontier. It was an act of terror meant to instill fear and drive the Natives from coveted lands. It was justified by these stereotypes that were highly effective in undermining the dignity, pride and self-assurance of our people. We are, among all peoples in this hemisphere, the most misunderstood, the most libeled and the most despised because of the lies in the media, in popular literature and, sadly, in the schools.

Doug George-Kanentiio, Akwesasne Mohawk, is a co-founder of the Native American Journalists Association, a former member of the Board of Trustees for the National Museum of the American Indian and the author of many books and articles about Native history and current issues. His latest book is "Iroquois on Fire". He may be reached via e-mail: Kanentiioaol.com. Kanentiio resides on Oneida Iroquois Territory in central New York State.
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