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Old 03-09-2005, 05:42 PM   #1
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And the Washington Redskins select....

Okay, I am not really sold on the Smurf’s 2.0. That isn’t to say that our new lineup including Moss and Patten won’t be a fine unit, I just would like to have another guy in place as a backup plan. Jacobs or McCants might be the guy, but if Moss doesn’t sign long term we run the risk of looking for a WR every year for the next couple of years.

I am pretty sure that we don’t need Plaxico or someone cheap like Travis Taylor or David Terrell. The only logical choice is to draft someone. Now here is where most of you will turn on south on my opinion. I really think that Mike Williams and Braylon Edwards will be gone. Mainly because I believe all of the teams in the top six are serious possibilities to trade out of their pick. If this happens then the simple answer is to trade down to the best WR available.

Hopefully we move back four spots with Houston so they can move up for a CB. Last time I checked to move into the top ten usually cost teams a #2. If we can slide down before Carolina we should be able to land the #3 WR in this draft Troy Williamson. He’s 6’2”, 200#, and ran in the high 4.3’s at the combine He isn't a very physical receiver, but he is among the fastest receivers in the draft. He would benefit from bulking up about 10-12 pounds and increasing his upper body strength. He could be a "TO home run threat" who can take it the distance every time he touches the football. He has played in a run-first offense in college and understands how the deep ball will be there after we run the ball.

I know most people think that adding one of the potential superstars WRs should be our priority, but I really think building our depth up now through the draft is much more important. If we trade down and draft the type of players that are hungry and looking to prove something rather than the busts like David Terrell, our impending cap problems wont be problems because we will have fine replacements. Another bonus of moving out of the top ten is it will lessen the signing bonus our pick will demand, and get him into camp on time.

I think the majority of our first two picks should be players that can play now, mainly WR and CB. This draft is so deep at CB, that I think if we grab that second rounder a guy might fall to us, just like Smoot did four years ago. The rest of our draft should be project players such as a Matt Jones or depth for our DL and OL. Does anyone really know where this guy will fall into place yet? I am praying he is ours in round three.

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Old 03-09-2005, 05:59 PM   #2
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Re: And the Washington Redskins select....

Williamson, Clayton, Roddy White, all these guys are good players no doubt about it. But none of them is a big, and more importantly, PHYSICAL receiver. We are set for speed guys in my opinion. We just need to add that big Mike Williams type of player. Thats why I think WE should be the ones trading up into the 4-7 range to get him.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:37 PM   #3
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Re: And the Washington Redskins select....

Dont Be Suprised If We Trade Down Now And Try To Get Some More Picks, This Sounds Like A Very Smart Choice To Me
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:02 PM   #4
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Re: And the Washington Redskins select....

Excellent, well thought-out post, drew.

I actually agree with most of what you said, and I believe the Skins will in fact trade down from #9 and possibly pick up a second rounder. They might be able to garner an additional 3rd rounder in a Gardner trade, so that would give them some solid, quality picks with which to improve in various areas, rather than gambling on an expensive top-10 pick at receiver.

I see the Skins being very active on draft day, trying to maneuver (both down and up) into position to get the guys they've targeted to improve in areas of need and poor depth. While I think Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards could certainly improve the wide receiver situation, I think the Skins are wary of handing out a big signing bonus to a player at a position that has historically been a huge gamble in terms of bang for first-round buck.
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:05 PM   #5
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Re: And the Washington Redskins select....

hey whats up guys, youll have all brought up some good points as to what we should do with the draft. i have a couple questions though. if we draft a top ten is there a certain amount we will have to pay him, a base + a bonus, what was sean taylors contract for last year. I was just curious didnt know if we trade down to get more picks will we have enough cap room to even sign them. What is our current cap room as of today, anyone know?
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:04 PM   #6
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id be up for a trade down, and grabbing heath miller if we did trade down. if rolle or pacman jones or derrick johnson slid to us when we traded down, id be more than happy to take them
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:17 PM   #7
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Enough already with the Heath Miller. We do not need him, period.
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:25 PM   #8
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My feeling is that there are two big game receivers in the draft and when you have a shot at a big game player you don't trade down for depth. You take the big game player and run. Take Williams...take Edwards who cares just take whichever is there at 9. Otherwise...trade down and take a CB.
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:27 PM   #9
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I agree with trading down this time. We have plenty of big names now (Lavar, Taylor, Washington, Samuals, Portis...). We need to be looking at those guys like Cooley who can come out and produce reliably for a reasonable amount of money. Think of it like diversifying your portfolio. We are bound to do pretty well with a number of quality picks even if there are no superstars.
I think with Gardners trade and then trading or #9, we could pick up 4 good players to add to the roster from this draft in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Derrick Johnson and play him in the middle
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:26 PM   #11
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FRPLG is right on the money. Depth is important, but not as important as having difference makers and game breakers. We all point to the Pats, but that is the only team you see like that. The other teams that are contending (Eagles, Steelers, Colts, Chargers, Falcons, etc.) have a number of big-time players. Mike Williams is the kind of player you get a shot at only once in a very long time. Especially since I believe, as most of us do, I think, that we will not be drafting so high for a while. We can get CB depth other places, we can get DE depth other places. What we cant get other places is that one player who will make our offense and all its players better, a la Moss or TO. I believe Wiliams is that.
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Re: And the Washington Redskins select....

Anyone know how Williams' speed compares to TOs'?
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Depth is important, but not as important as having difference makers and game breakers. We all point to the Pats, but that is the only team you see like that.
What about Gibb's other 3 superbowls with the Skins? Rypien, Timmy Smith, Doug Williams...
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Exactly. Those were cases of the players around them making them look better than they were. Not to say they weren't great players, but I can see Ramsey easily fitting into that list.
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If Williams and Edwards are gone by that pick. Trade down and pick up something else. If we draft a receiver we need a stud. I'd even go as far as to get rid of our first this year as long as we got someones first next year plus some! (whatever the tradechart sees as plausible.)
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