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Old 05-08-2013, 11:21 PM   #46
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It would be a pretty big surprise to me if one of our rookie DB picks didn't make the team.

Although they might not start right away I think they'll all be in the mix early and often.
Agreed. Both the safeties are "safe" type players to me. At worst they're average to decent starters at some point barring injury. Amerson has the highest ceiling but may be the only one with real bust potential...but he'll have ever opportunity to be our third corner.
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I expect Crawford to be a solid starter by the end of the season and unseat Josh Wilson.
That would be a sweet outcome.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:24 PM   #48
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I expect Crawford to be a solid starter by the end of the season and unseat Josh Wilson.
I know they loved him out of camp last year but he didn't play well early in the season and only played ok at the end. His smarts and approach can only do so much and appear to not be enough to overcome his skill deficiencies.
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I know they loved him out of camp last year but he didn't play well early in the season and only played ok at the end. His smarts and approach can only do so much and appear to not be enough to overcome his skill deficiencies.
To the bolded part... Thats just a mirror image of all of our DB's last year, as well as the rest of the defense. The defense started going much more disguised blitzes later in the year, and the defense as a whole improved late.

To the not bolded part... While I didnt review film of Crawford nor did I know exactly what defense was called, but a lot of what I saw last year with Crawford seemed more about him being out of position. More about him reading the play late, therefore arriving late. It seemed more about his smarts than his skill. Could be wrong but thats what it seemed like to me. I suspect that he will play faster this year, although im not claiming he will improve enough to start without injuries dictating it.
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Jordan Reed vs South Carolina 2012 - YouTube

I also put this in the draft wrap up thread. Really shows how versatile he is and what he brings. I think he ends up being our number 2 TE through camp if he can stay healthy. Guy is an athlete. Yes, he has to shore up his blocking but Fred Davis needed to do that as well when he came out.
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Previewing the Players on Redskins' Roster Bubble | Bleacher Report[/QUOTE]

Bleacher has Royster, J.Pugh, Gomes, A. Gettis and A. Robinson on the bubble. I am unsurprised by Royster, Pugh or Gomes and would not be surprised if none make the roster based on last year's performance, the crowd at their positions and this year's draft (when they pick two guys at your position - a message is being sent).

Gettis - I had hopes for him based on his pedigree and his draft reports. But, his reviews never seemed to stand out, never heard any one say that he was impressive or stood out (unlike LeRibeus for example). He may get a pass this year or he may just be the next Eric Cook. I thought he might have a leg up on Mo Hurt, but am now thinking it might be the other way around as Hurt can play tackle and guard.

Robinson - agree with Bleacher Report, he is pretty much a one trick pony. I would bet he makes the roster over Henderson or Stallworth but it would be a tiny, tiny bet.
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Bleacher has Royster, J.Pugh, Gomes, A. Gettis and A. Robinson on the bubble. I am unsurprised by Royster, Pugh or Gomes and would not be surprised if none make the roster based on last year's performance, the crowd at their positions and this year's draft (when they pick two guys at your position - a message is being sent).

Gettis - I had hopes for him based on his pedigree and his draft reports. But, his reviews never seemed to stand out, never heard any one say that he was impressive or stood out (unlike LeRibeus for example). He may get a pass this year or he may just be the next Eric Cook. I thought he might have a leg up on Mo Hurt, but am now thinking it might be the other way around as Hurt can play tackle and guard.

Robinson - agree with Bleacher Report, he is pretty much a one trick pony. I would bet he makes the roster over Henderson or Stallworth but it would be a tiny, tiny bet.[/QUOTE]

Royster-Definitely on the bubble. His best bet is either they keep 2 FBs and he stays on as a backup to DY. Or Helu gets hurt again, they don't sign another veteran, and decide they need to have a vet other than Morris in the backfield roster,

Pugh-I like him, think he stays at least early on in the season

Gomes-Unless he totally beasts on special teams this summer and proves indispensable there, he's gone

Gettis-Practice squad

Robinson-Needs to improve his blocking, and not just be a speedster. I think bringing Henderson (a speedster who blocks) in was a message to Robinson. But Shanahan loves him and he's likely to stay
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Re: An early look at potential camp battles.

What are the chances that the League allows for a larger roster with the emphasis on more active players in order to mitigate the injuries we hear so much about?

Not this season, obviously.
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I could see that happening someday.
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Re: An early look at potential camp battles.

So MS loves Robinson? Interesting. I guess he is the 5th WR spot is his to lose.

At the same time, I thought I remember you (Smootsmack) indicating that Hankerson may not be as secure as some here believe. Do you see the potential for him being cut in favor of Henderson or Stallworth?

Right now we have:

88 Garçon, Pierre (5)
15 Morgan, Joshua (5)
89 Moss, Santana (12)
85 Hankerson, Leonard (2)
11 Robinson, Aldrick (1)
14 Stallworth, Donté (11)
19 Briscoe, Dezmon (1)
00 Henderson, Devery (10)
13 Reeves, Chip (R)
16 Dawson, Skye (R)
86 Lewis, Lance (R)
13 Williams, Nick (R)

Say we keep six, I guess the question is: Is it eight guys fighting for two spots or seven guys fighting for one? Are any of the rookies likely to be anything more than PS guys (if even that)? If Hankerson is susceptable, do any of the rookies have a shot?

I think I have said this before, it is nice that, whoever we cut, the guys fighting for the spot are clearly NFL guys who could start or play significant time for other teams. Very, very different from the Jabar Gaffney year just two years ago.
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Re: An early look at potential camp battles.

I'd sacrifice a ST spot for an extra WR.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:28 AM   #57
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I think Hankerson makes it. Dez, Donte, and Devery battle for the last spot
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Re: An early look at potential camp battles.

How many WRs do you guys think we keep if we keep 4 TEs? I know you need backups, but how many times did the Redskins run a 4 WR set? It seems like we ran a lot of 2 WR, 2TE, 1 RB sets or took out a TE for a FB (D Young). When you run Read/Option do you need to carry 7 or 8 WRs? The TE situation last year after Davis went down was Paulson, Paul and Cooley I guess. They kept Brandon Banks a lot last year as a WR, even though he was really ST. If Crawford/Paul fulfill that roll, I think they only keep 6 WR, 4 TEs this year.
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I think Hankerson makes it. Dez, Donte, and Devery battle for the last spot
Do you think, we a very strong showing in camp at both the position and on ST, one of the rookies could make the final 53? Or do you think MS/KS prefer to have a vet in that last spot as a "just in case" measure?

I am thinking that the 6th WR spot is a vet/game-day inactive spot in case we come up short due to injuries.
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I don't know that any of them will stand out enough, but we'll see I suppose
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