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Old 08-13-2013, 05:47 PM   #46
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I probably have the same as everyone but...

QB- RG, KC
HB- ALf, Helu
FB- DY
WR- pg, jm, lh, sm
TE- fd, JR, NP
LT- TW, TC
LG- KL
C- WM
RG- CC
RT- Tyler, Pashos
De- SB, JJ, Baker, KG
DT- bf, Nield
OLB- Rak, ry, Jax, Jenkins
MLB- LF, PR, Barnett, kehl
CB- DH, JW, Bigg,Craw, Minn, Amer
FS- Rambo, Pugh
SS-bw, RD, gomes
Kai, sav, Sundberg

My questions remain:
Can Thompson or Jamison unseat Royster and what long term plans do we have for them??
5th WR between Henderson and Stallworth
Paulsen stays if...an OL can play 2 positions.
Has LeRibeus ate himself out of a job over Hurt or Gettis?
Is Gettis more valued over LeRib's G/C ability?
Is Matthews able to play G/C and bump one of them out?
Does the team value NT Brace over keeping OLB Tapp or does that last roster spot go to a RB, TE, IOL???

I like this roster but tough decisions.
PS- Lewis, Dawson, Briscoe?, Nixon, muckelroy.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:35 AM   #47
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I probably have the same as everyone but...

QB- RG, KC
HB- ALf, Helu
FB- DY
WR- pg, jm, lh, sm
TE- fd, JR, NP
LT- TW, TC
LG- KL
C- WM
RG- CC
RT- Tyler, Pashos
De- SB, JJ, Baker, KG
DT- bf, Nield
OLB- Rak, ry, Jax, Jenkins
MLB- LF, PR, Barnett, kehl
CB- DH, JW, Bigg,Craw, Minn, Amer
FS- Rambo, Pugh
SS-bw, RD, gomes
Kai, sav, Sundberg

My questions remain:

Can Thompson or Jamison unseat Royster and what long term plans do we have for them?

We'll see Thompson and Jamison in the second preseason game. Then we'll know a little bit more about them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Thompson get stashed on IR before the final cuts.

5th WR between Henderson and Stallworth

Aldrick Robinson should be the 5th WR. I doubt that either Henderson or Stallworth will make the team.

Paulsen stays if...an OL can play 2 positions.

Paulsen is a lock. He is our blocking TE. He is much bigger than the other TE's.

Has LeRibeus ate himself out of a job over Hurt or Gettis?

I wonder the same thing about LeRibeus. He had better find some motivation or he might not last in the NFL.

Is Gettis more valued over LeRib's G/C ability?

I doubt that because versatility is a prized commodity for a reserve OL.

Is Matthews able to play G/C and bump one of them out?

So far he's only played C. I guess we'll both be watching to see if he plays any at G in the preseason. If he does, that could be bad news for some other player.

Does the team value NT Brace over keeping OLB Tapp or does that last roster spot go to a RB, TE, IOL???

In the first preseason game, Tapp was used inside on passing downs. He played inside next to Kerrigan with Orakpo and Brandon Jenkins on the outside. That looked formidable to me. I think they like Tapp.

Brace is behind Cofield, Baker, and Neild. I doubt that he makes the team.

I like this roster but tough decisions.

PS- Lewis, Dawson, Briscoe?, Nixon, muckelroy.

Long shot; Needs to get a chance and show special ability as a PR/KR; Gone; Keeper but may end up on Practice Squad; Maybe.
I don't mean to seem like a know-it-all. The above are just my opinions expressed in shorthand.

I also like the way the roster is shaping up. The tough decisions just mean that the Skins are adding more good players to compete with the incumbents. That's the way to build a winner. Hail!
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:46 PM   #48
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^^ yeah man. Good input. Totally forgot about Robinson. Having tough roster decisions is a good problem to have. Still a lot of work to be done definitely looking forward to next offseason to plug all remaining holes.
Preseason came so fast but the 1st game didn't satisfy me.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:41 PM   #49
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So much for WR Henderson making the 53 man roster . We have enough vets at the WR position so I see the WR corp as the following : 1. Garçon 2. Morgan 3.Moss 4.Hankerson
5.Robinson PS Lewis,Dawson.
LB's Rak Fletcher Kerrigan Riley Tapp Barnett Bryan Keil Jackson (4game susp)Robinson (IR)Brandon Jenkins ( can stand up or hand in the dirt) MuckleRoy I think PS if not eligible he will be cut.
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Now that we're in the middle of the preseason and have got good looks at the players, I figured I would predict how I think the 53-man roster will look.

Offense

Quarterback: Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Rex Grossman

Halfback: Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr., Chris Thompson

Fullback: Darrell Young

Tight-end: Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen, Jordan Reed (I don't think we'll carry 4 TE's; battle's between Paulsen and Paul)

Wide Receiver: Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Skye Dawson, Aldrick Robinson

Tackle: Trent Williams, Tom Compton, Tony Pashos, Tyler Polumbus

Guard: Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Maurice Hurt

Center: Will Montgomery, Kevin Matthews


Defense

Defensive end: Darryl Tapp, Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, Kedric Golston, Stephen Bowen

Nose tackle: Barry Cofield, Chris Baker (Is the minimum 3?)

Inside linebacker: London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Jeremy Kimbrough, Marvin Burdette

Outside linebacker: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Brandon Jenkins, Rob Jackson

Cornerback: DeAngelo Hall, David Amerson, Richard Crawford, Chase Minnifield, E.J. Biggers

Safety: Brandon Meriweather, Baccari Rambo, Jose Gumbs, Reed Doughty, Jordan Pugh (Maybe Tanard Jackson?)


Special teams

Kicker: Kai Forbath

Punter: Sav Rocca

Long snapper: Nick Sundberg
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Also you're adding some guys that are PUP'ed right now, they don't count towards our final 53 (Hurt, Carriker) and some suspended guys as well (Jarvis Jenkins, Rob Jackson, Tanard Jackson). Thats 5 spots that we can use preseason stars for (not named Pat White)
I wasn't taking into account players who were suspended or PUP'ed. That would have taken more time.


As for your edits:

I wouldn't be mad if we kept 4 TE's. Obviously, Davis and Reed are going nowhere, and Paulsen or Paul getting cut would be a surprise. But with as many wide receivers as I had, I figured Paul was the lone expendable.

La Ribs? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he was cut.

Royster, in my opinion, is as good as gone. He's shown us what he can do, and it's not all that much. Keeping Jamison or Thompson would be a much better option.

Burdette's a tackling machine. If he's not on the 53-man roster, we have to stash him on the practice squad. I wouldn't be surprised if they give him a roster spot so he can learn off Fletcher and Riley in games. Some of these UDFAs you just somehow take a liking to, and you hope they make it(even if they're not always the best option ); I suppose that's what's happened with this guy.

Skye Dawson's been our best punt returner so far, and he's looked good in camp as a receiver(or so the reports have been). I don't know if that's enough, but I hope he makes it.
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Re: Predict the 2013 53 Man Opening Day Roster

QB (2): RG3, Kirk Cousins
RB (4): Morris, Helu, Royster, Thompson
FB (1): Young
TE (3): Davis, Reed, Paulsen
WR (5): Garcon, Morgan, Moss, Robinson, Hankerson
T (4): Williams, Polumbus, Compton, Pashos
G (4): Chester, Lichtensteiger, Gettis, Hurt
C (2): Montgomery, Matthews

NT (3): Cofield, Nield, Baker
DE (4): Bowen, Carriker, Jenkins, Golston
OLB (5): Orakpo, Kerrigan, Tapp, Jackson, Jenkins
ILB (4): Fletcher, Riley, Kehl, Barnett
CB (5): Wilson, Hall, Biggers, Minnifield, Amerson
S (4): Meriweather, Doughty, Rambo, Pugh

K (1): Forbath
P (1): Rocca
LS (1): Sundberg
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QB (2): RG3, Kirk Cousins
RB (4): Morris, Helu, Royster, Thompson
FB (1): Young
TE (3): Davis, Reed, Paulsen
WR (5): Garcon, Morgan, Moss, Robinson, Hankerson
T (4): Williams, Polumbus, Compton, Pashos
G (4): Chester, Lichtensteiger, Gettis, Hurt
C (2): Montgomery, Matthews

NT (3): Cofield, Nield, Baker
DE (4): Bowen, Carriker, Jenkins, Golston
OLB (5): Orakpo, Kerrigan, Tapp, Jackson, Jenkins
ILB (4): Fletcher, Riley, Kehl, Barnett
CB (5): Wilson, Hall, Biggers, Minnifield, Amerson
S (4): Meriweather, Doughty, Rambo, Pugh

K (1): Forbath
P (1): Rocca
LS (1): Sundberg

There is no way in hell we are going with only 2 QBs. No way, no how. Kirk is even hurt right now.
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QB (2): RG3, Kirk Cousins
RB (4): Morris, Helu, Royster, Thompson
FB (1): Young
TE (3): Davis, Reed, Paulsen
WR (5): Garcon, Morgan, Moss, Robinson, Hankerson
T (4): Williams, Polumbus, Compton, Pashos
G (4): Chester, Lichtensteiger, Gettis, Hurt
C (2): Montgomery, Matthews

NT (3): Cofield, Nield, Baker
DE (4): Bowen, Carriker, Jenkins, Golston
OLB (5): Orakpo, Kerrigan, Tapp, Jackson, Jenkins
ILB (4): Fletcher, Riley, Kehl, Barnett
CB (5): Wilson, Hall, Biggers, Minnifield, Amerson
S (4): Meriweather, Doughty, Rambo, Pugh

K (1): Forbath
P (1): Rocca
LS (1): Sundberg
I think a few things that preseason has shown is:
1. We are goin to keep 4 TE's, though it would be sad to cut talent b/c lack of Safety depth.
2. MHurt is hurt but I hope he can return by start of season or cut LeRibeus when he does return.
3. Baker is playing DE and filling in nicely for Jenkins
4. Carriker simply needs to be put on IR. the team is moving on and he needs a year off b/c he is simply a weight room athlete, too brittle to compete.
5. Backup center Matthews has greatly disappointed. I thought he could/ would be more but not so and Kory is now the backup center.
6. I fear the biggest gamble or possible blessing is to keep 1 NT in Coffield, cut Nield, and have Baker w/ Golston starting to play DE until Jenkins returns. Baker gives us flexibility and offers another tight decision to keep a 5th safety which is a growing concern.
IMO.

**d'oh, my theory is broken b/c of suspended players Jenkins/Jackson. I guess that's a good thing as it gives some roster options.
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There is no way in hell we are going with only 2 QBs. No way, no how. Kirk is even hurt right now.
Yeah I don't see it either.

Grossman will likely be the #3.
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Yeah I don't see it either.

Grossman will likely be the #3.
What about the possibility of keeping Grossman through the first four games ad cutting him once we a. Get our guys back from suspension and b. get a better feel for the overall health of our top two guys on the QB depth chart.
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What about the possibility of keeping Grossman through the first four games ad cutting him once we a. Get our guys back from suspension and b. get a better feel for the overall health of our top two guys on the QB depth chart.
I could definitely see only 2 QBs when Jackson and Jenkins come off of suspension - IF - Cousins is healthy in practice, and Griffin doesn't have any set backs.

I'm still not quite sure how our cap is going to handle those two coming back. Once we get to counting the 53+practice squad, we are going to be real tight cap wise, especially since the IR guys count too (I think). Good time to mention Over the Cap - NFL salary cap, contracts, and more again, as the next week to 10 days will be critical for the Skins in terms of cap space.

Here are the bottom 6 teams (I went to 6 because it includes Mara's Giants and that makes me laugh!), and the Rams have zilch geez.

Giants.......$113,638,715......$2,828,982
Bears .......$122,389,404......$2,602,747
Redskins....$103,164,605......$1,322,985
Texans......$121,281,302......$1,277,816
Chiefs.......$121,389,765........$288,205
Rams .......$111,114,602.........$90,930
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My Latest 53:

ST (3): Forbath, Sundberg, Rocca

Offense (26):
QB (3): RGIII, Cousins, Grossman
RB (4): Morris, Helu, K. Williams, Thompson
FB (1): Young
WR (5): Garcon, Morgan, Moss, Hankerson, Robinson
TE (4): Davis, Paulson, Paul, Reed
OL (9): T. Williams (T), Polumbus (T), Compton (T), Pashos (T), Montgomery (C/G), Liechtenstieger (G/C), Chester (G), LeRib (G/C), Gettis (G)

Defense (24):DL (6): Cofield, Baker, Golston, Mehrling, Bowen, Nield
ILB (4): Fletcher, Riley, Kehl, Barnett
OLB (4): Rak, Kerrigan, Tapp, Jenkins
CB (5): Hall, Wilson, Amerson, Minnifield, Biggers
S (5): Merriweather, Doughty, Rambo, Pugh, Gomes

PS - Lewis, Williams, Nixon, Jamison, Compton, Gumbs (is he eligible?). Two other OL or S from other team cuts.

Jarvis Jenkins (DE), R. Jackson (OLB): Suspended
Hurt (G/T), Carriker (DE): PUP

When Jenkins and Jackson come back, Gomes gone along Nield or Mehrling (likely Mehrling) gone.

IF Carriker comes off PUP (I doubt it, bet he goes to IR), whoever didn't get cut between Nield or Mehrling gone.

IF Tanard cleared to play, when he returns, Pugh gone.
IF Hurt comes off PUP, Pashos gone.

Tough calls all around. With 4 TE's, I think the 6th WR spot a casualty. Davis, Reed and Paul all essentially buffed WR's if needed.

OLine: With Compton, I think we almost have to carry 4 tackles which makes the interior tough. Do we keep Mathews (a center only) over LeRib or Gettis? If cut, I see them being snagged by someone with line issues (Oakland, Buffalo, Dallas, Arizona). I have always liked Hurt and think if he were healthy, Pashos wouldn't make the team and one of last year's rookies would be out given Hurt's versitility.

When Jackson and J. Jenkins come back from suspension, it will be interesting to see if Kehl stays - I think he does and they go with 9 LB's and 6 DL which is why I have Mehrling or Nield cut. Baker doubles as a NT and DE so he provides depth at both positions. Mehrling and Nield are one position players. Nield especially so since he really doesn't have a place in a 4-3 defense. [At the same time, I think Nield is a big-time NT in the making like P.Williams was for the Ravens. In a year or two, Nield is a guy who absolutely plugs the center and is impassable in the run game. - He will be on someone's roster at the end of this year].

Safety and OLine seem to me to be our weakest spots. I am really missing the loss of P. Thomas for long term depth.
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HTTR_24/7 tweeted the final roster will come in with 4 TE, 5 WR, 4 RB, and 1 FB.

Take it for what it is worth, but that is about what most have.
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I think Joe may have it about spot on.
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