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Old 06-28-2013, 11:26 AM   #286
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Not sure where I saw it but a couple more tidbits on the AH/Lloyd case:
- Second suspect is detained in Conneticut awaiting extradition to Mass. Still seeking third.

- Prosecution has a sealed affidavit from someone. Initially thought to be one of the fellow passengers b/c prosecutor disclosed conversations that occurred in the alleged murder vehicle during the time they drove to and from Lloyd's house. Not sure if that is true as the additional suspects have just been apprehended or are still being sought out of state.
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Not sure where I saw it but a couple more tidbits on the AH/Lloyd case:
- Second suspect is detained in Conneticut awaiting extradition to Mass. Still seeking third.

- Prosecution has a sealed affidavit from someone. Initially thought to be one of the fellow passengers b/c prosecutor disclosed conversations that occurred in the alleged murder vehicle during the time they drove to and from Lloyd's house. Not sure if that is true as the additional suspects have just been apprehended or are still being sought out of state.
Second suspect is under a 1.5 million dollar bond. My guess this is the guy who's going to rat on AH.

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The third suspect they are looking for. Why the hell is a 23 year old kid hanging around a 41 year old gang banger?

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Former Patriots player Aaron Hernandez is probed in two more murders, law enforcement officials say - Metro - The Boston Globe


This is hard for me to understand on why this wasn't investigated. You have two individuals that was murdered shortly after a fight in the club, and you don't investigate or question Aaron Hernandez even though the cops said they heard he was there. What they know is there was a fight between the victims and a group of AH's friends, and they heard that AH was in fact in the club. Yet, he isn't brought in on questioning or they didn't follow any leads on the silver SUV that was owned by AH? What kind of shitty detective work is this?
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This may have been brought up already, but here's something I can't quite understand.

You get a call at 2:30 in the morning to go meet up in a car with someone who you already suspect could be involved in a double murder, with his boys....and you agree to go??
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This may have been brought up already, but here's something I can't quite understand.

You get a call at 2:30 in the morning to go meet up in a car with someone who you already suspect could be involved in a double murder, with his boys....and you agree to go??

I think they were 'friends'. They hung out at the clubs, and he was even dating his baby mama's sister. I suspect AH felt betrayed for some reason or another and this ultimately led to the murder. You know Lloyd was worried about something because he wanted to make sure his family knew who he was leaving with. It's a good point though.

edit: I think that was one of the things AH was mad about. Apparently Lloyd was talking to some people that AH didn't like at the club, and it caused AH to become mistrusting of him.
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This may have been brought up already, but here's something I can't quite understand.

You get a call at 2:30 in the morning to go meet up in a car with someone who you already suspect could be involved in a double murder, with his boys....and you agree to go??
I was thinking the same thing, and if you "knew" he murdered someone, why would you even consider going in the car with him.
Every thing seems to perfect, in terms of accusing Hernandez. Either Aaron is the dumbest person in the world, or something else is up. He sets up surveillance cameras right before he decides to kill someone, he returns a rental car with evidence in the car. I feel like there is more to the story then what the media is telling everyone. Or maybe Aaron is just that dumb.
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I was thinking the same thing, and if you "knew" he murdered someone, why would you even consider going in the car with him.
Every thing seems to perfect, in terms of accusing Hernandez. Either Aaron is the dumbest person in the world, or something else is up. He sets up surveillance cameras right before he decides to kill someone, he returns a rental car with evidence in the car. I feel like there is more to the story then what the media is telling everyone. Or maybe Aaron is just that dumb.
I am going with the "Aaron is just that dumb" theory myself.
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Very nice gesture. That and they really really want to wash their hands of this guy.
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This may have been brought up already, but here's something I can't quite understand.

You get a call at 2:30 in the morning to go meet up in a car with someone who you already suspect could be involved in a double murder, with his boys....and you agree to go??
especially considering the deceased texted his sister twice that night after he got picked up saying he wanted his sister to know he was with hernandez ... seems like the deceased got a feeling he was about to get murked and wanted to leave some kind of trail back to hernandez ...

hernandez seems like a real idiot
1) they didnt take the deceased phone so the cops were able to see all of his texts back and forth w hernandez and the deceased's sister
2) they didnt take the deceased's money and jewelry to at least set up a paper thin robbery lead/suspicion
3) forgetting to turn off his video surveillance until after the deceased is killed
4) not destroying the video surveillance for the entire 24 hrs or so
5) doing it sooo close to his home

the list goes on and on . . . it seems like he had ample time to plan a murder but just got hot headed and made it a rash decision operation.
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I was thinking the same thing, and if you "knew" he murdered someone, why would you even consider going in the car with him.
Every thing seems to perfect, in terms of accusing Hernandez. Either Aaron is the dumbest person in the world, or something else is up. He sets up surveillance cameras right before he decides to kill someone, he returns a rental car with evidence in the car. I feel like there is more to the story then what the media is telling everyone. Or maybe Aaron is just that dumb.
Both could be true. We could be missing important details AND Aaron is outwitted by rocks.
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especially considering the deceased texted his sister twice that night after he got picked up saying he wanted his sister to know he was with hernandez ... seems like the deceased got a feeling he was about to get murked and wanted to leave some kind of trail back to hernandez ...

hernandez seems like a real idiot
1) they didnt take the deceased phone so the cops were able to see all of his texts back and forth w hernandez and the deceased's sister
2) they didnt take the deceased's money and jewelry to at least set up a paper thin robbery lead/suspicion
3) forgetting to turn off his video surveillance until after the deceased is killed
4) not destroying the video surveillance for the entire 24 hrs or so
5) doing it sooo close to his home

the list goes on and on . . . it seems like he had ample time to plan a murder but just got hot headed and made it a rash decision operation.
Yeah, he ain't the brightest. It's tough to figure out if he is more stupid for not thinking of some of those things or arrogant to think it wouldn't come back on him or he'd get away with it regardless. Dumbass.
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This may have been brought up already, but here's something I can't quite understand.

You get a call at 2:30 in the morning to go meet up in a car with someone who you already suspect could be involved in a double murder, with his boys....and you agree to go??
You can end with you get a call at 2:30 in the morning.. I'm not getting out of bed unless a close family member is dead or near dead.
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Yeah Lloyd getting in the car is really suspicious IMO. And he was obviously scared because of the warnings he gave his sister, so was he also a gangmember of AH 's crew? Did he just know it was his time to face the consequences of being a snitch?
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