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Old 06-24-2013, 02:03 PM   #106
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Deacon Jones Award to recognize NFL's sack leader - ESPN

Let's hope Orakpo or Kerrigan win a couple of Deacon Jones awards in the future.
Maybe I'm being cynical but why did Jones have to pass away before they named this award after him? Could have been a great opportunity for current players to connect with a legend on an annual basis.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:34 PM   #107
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while the truth isnt know about the exact extent of hernandez' involvement, it kinda irks me that ppl are bring up ray lewis.

to my understanding, ray didnt have any physical or verbal contribution to the stabbing death but was in the "getaway"car ... did he have more of an involvement?

hernandez' involvement as it appears now seems to be much much more direct and culpable.

if someone knows something i dont (i honestly dont know all the details of ray's case except that he settled the civil suit out of court), can you let me know?
Well, there are similarities and, yes, there were some allegations that Lewis was part of the physical brawl that led to the two murders. Certainly, his friends were part of it, had purchased knives the day before with Lewis present, and they all sped away from the crime scene in Lewis' limo after the murder - not stopping until they got to Baltimore. Further, Lewis' white suit from that night was never found. So there was a lot of circumstantial evidence about Lewis' part in the murder but nothing concrete. As I recall, the general consensus was that, if he didn't actually murder the two men, he knew damn well who did, helped them escape and help destroy material evidence. B/c of changing stories, the lack of eyewitnesses and the lack of physical evidence, no one was ever convicted for the two murders. (See: As we celebrate Ravens Ray Lewis, don't forget the murder victims - Orlando Sentinel)

On the other hand, and as it appears right now, Hernandez and three men walked into his house, gunshots were heard and, at some point subsequent, Hernandez, two men and a corpse left the house. While, just as with Lewis, there is a certain level of uncertainty (did Hernandez commit the murder, watch someone commit the murder or find out after the fact and help cover it up), the level of uncertainty is no where near what was present in the Lewis case.
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On the other hand, and as it appears right now, Hernandez and three men walked into his house, gunshots were heard and, at some point subsequent, Hernandez, two men and a corpse left the house. While, just as with Lewis, there is a certain level of uncertainty (did Hernandez commit the murder, watch someone commit the murder or find out after the fact and help cover it up), the level of uncertainty is no where near what was present in the Lewis case.
The shots happened at his house?
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The shots happened at his house?
That's what I understood but I might be mistaken.
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Poor Brady. He doesn't have his elite receiving squad anymore. In hindsight, I'm sure the Pats are kicking themselves for letting Welker go.

Someone on this board(CRedskinsRule?)asked if this was the year NE faltered. It's starting to look that way. No good receivers are a lock to play this season except for Amendola, and Danny Woodhead's gone. If their defense isn't better than last season, I can't see them finishing above 9-7.
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Brady has won Super Bowls with rather crappy receivers before. This does not mean that he will again - but it also means we should be cautious in declaring the demise of the Pats for receiver reasons alone.
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.... but it also means we should be cautious in declaring the demise of the Pats for receiver reasons alone.
Nah, **** it! Grab the pitchforks and burning brands! Burn the Franchise!
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Nah, **** it! Grab the pitchforks and burning brands! Burn the Franchise!
No, please don't do that! Then the Patriot's bandwagon fans would have to find another team, and some of them just might chose the Redskins.

I know the Patriots have some loyal fans, but for some reason, it seems like they have more bandwagon fans than any other team. Maybe it's just me.
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Brady has won Super Bowls with rather crappy receivers before. This does not mean that he will again - but it also means we should be cautious in declaring the demise of the Pats for receiver reasons alone.
Agreed. For years Brady threw to a bunch of joe schmoes and had success. I won't believe they are heading downhill until it happens.
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Pats have had 12 straight winning seasons, can't really bet against that
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Pats have had 12 straight winning seasons, can't really bet against that
True, true. But Brady's getting older; Welker, who's been a big part of their success, is gone; Woodhead's gone; Ridley hasn't proven he can be a reliable runner; and the defense has never been among the best.

I don't know, perhaps not this year, but every dog has his day, and I think the Patriot's day is coming to a close.
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Eventually the pats will fall but that division is still pretty bad, miami,buff and ny are all bad teams.
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No, please don't do that! Then the Patriot's bandwagon fans would have to find another team, and some of them just might chose the Redskins.

I know the Patriots have some loyal fans, but for some reason, it seems like they have more bandwagon fans than any other team. Maybe it's just me.
Oh come on, Pats fans are not bandwagon fans, they're just Red Sox fans who need to pass the time after baseball season is over.
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[QUOTE=SirLK26;1013221]No, please don't do that! Then the Patriot's bandwagon fans would have to find another team, and some of them just might chose the Redskins.

I know the Patriots have some loyal fans, but for some reason, it seems like they have more bandwagon fans than any other team. Maybe it's just me.[/QUOTE]

It's not just you, It looks that way to me to.
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