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Old 06-18-2013, 01:49 PM   #16
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Threads/comments about Fletcher drive me batty. Ignorance abounds.

- He played through a grueling injury last season. Compare that to Garcon (who's become the little darling of many a fan) and others who sit out, and then take your criticisms of Fletcher and shove them right up your asses. He missed a few tackles, but still is one of the best tacklers in all of pro football. He struggled to cover the best TEs in the league, just like every other defensive player who tries to cover Witten and Gonzales. I remember Fletcher defending some passes too, again fighting through a painful injury.

- When scheme and mid-game adjustments were reportedly turned over to Fletcher for the 2nd half of the season the defense improved markedly, for several reasons. One is that he took himself out of coverage more which is exactly what should happen. You don't take your premier tackler, who also has elite intuition for finding the ball on passes over the middle, and ask him to chase a TE to the outside of the field. That's just stupid scheming. Fletcher place is in the middle of the field on running and passing downs, period. Riley and the outside LBs need to cover the outside.

- Finally, it drives me up a ****ing wall when we pretend there's a replacement for Fletcher just waiting in the wings. Even if you could find a guy to PLAY at Fletcher's level right now, he won't have the mastery of the defense anytime soon. We don't have a 1st round pick in next year's draft either, so realistically the guy taking over for Fletcher next season will have to be our biggest and most expensive FA signing. Fortunately we'll have the cap room so it seems. But don't pretend like it's going to be easy.

He's arguably the most under appreciated player I've seen in my lifetime.

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Old 06-18-2013, 02:16 PM   #17
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Good for Fletcher for being able to play through injury, with some injuries you can do that, some you can't. No doubt he's tough. Facts are facts though, he's shown some signs of slowing down but he's still very capable and he's definitely very valuable as the QB of the D. As a LB you're going to have to cover at some point regardless of whether you're inside or out, again just a fact.

I think the vast majority of fans love the guy. Not sure what the hostility is about.
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:39 PM   #18
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He didn't just miss a few tackles. He missed more than any other inside linebacker in the league last year

What did we draft guys like Riley and Robinson for if not to give them the opportunity to take Fletcher's role. It's crazy to think we have no one waiting in the wings

He's close to 40 years old. Injuries and close to 40. No matter what kind of stud Fletcher is, Father Time is undefeated

No one hates Fletcher
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:51 PM   #19
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well just dont throw James Thrash under the bus...
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:19 PM   #20
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well just dont throw James Thrash under the bus...
Heh. Heh-heh. Heh-heh-heh...Muuuuuuhahahahahahaha. Aint' that the truth...
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:32 PM   #21
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Love #59, and I want him on the payroll somehow. I would like to see him transition into a position coach, and continue to mentor the young players.
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:08 PM   #22
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He didn't just miss a few tackles. He missed more than any other inside linebacker in the league last year

What did we draft guys like Riley and Robinson for if not to give them the opportunity to take Fletcher's role. It's crazy to think we have no one waiting in the wings

He's close to 40 years old. Injuries and close to 40. No matter what kind of stud Fletcher is, Father Time is undefeated

No one hates Fletcher
He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.
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Fletch will have another good season but I believe he retires after 2013
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #24
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He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.
No one's s***ing on him. I have nothing but praise for Fletcher. The consensus, though, is that while he has had a very good career, and while he played well last year, he's getting older and won't be able to keep it up much longer. Like Matty said, the vast majority of fans love him.

I guess I don't know where you're coming from.
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No one's s***ing on him. I have nothing but praise for Fletcher. The consensus, though, is that while he has had a very good career, and while he played well last year, he's getting older and won't be able to keep it up much longer. Like Matty said, the vast majority of fans love him.

I guess I don't know where you're coming from.
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He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.


It's a testament to Fletcher's tenacity and love for the game that he was able to play through injury, but you shouldn't compare him to Garcon. Fletcher had a sprained ankle; Garcon had a torn ligament in his foot. It's a testament to Garcon that he was able to play as well and as much as he did. To lead the team in receiving while playing with a torn ligament? Impressive.
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I guess Fletcher is off limits when it comes to critiquing his game.

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I guess Fletcher is off limits when it comes to critiquing his game.

True, true. Garcon, though? No hate is sufficient enough for him.
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He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.
sigh...did you see the offense when he played? come on man
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #30
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When he's healthy he can still ball. At his age that's tough though. Let's hope he has one more quality season in him.
Any chance we move him out of the middle LB position to one that requires a little less speed?

Swap him and Riley maybe? I'd like to see Kerrigan or Orakpo play DE (if Carriker can't go). Move London to OLB?



We want his defensive play-calling and leadership, no one is better, but he has lost a step.

STILL a force, just not the same he was.
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