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Old 03-11-2005, 04:25 PM   #1
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Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

Get this into your freakin' head people! We will not be drafting a WR in the early rounds in the upcoming draft! No Mike Williams, no Troy Williamson, no Mark Clayton. With the additions of Moss and Patten along with Thrash, Jacobs, and Gibbs' reiterated favorite, McCants, why? It's more likely for us to draft a WR in the later rounds who's willing to be the return man and do the dirty work on special teams. Our draft priorities should reflect need at CB, DL, MLB, TE, in no particular order. I believe it's imperative that we trade down for a lower first rounder and a second rounder. And if we can get at least a third round pick for the Gardner trade, we should be able to fufill those needs with some great talent. How's this?

1. CB Marlin Jackson Michigan
2. DE Matt Roth Iowa
3. TE Alex Smitn Stanford
3. MLB Barrett Rudd Nebraska
4. DT Eric Coleman Clemson
5. WR Jerome Mathis Hampton (That's right! He won't be selected in the early rounds)
6. C Vince Carter Oklahoma
7. Go figure

Of course, the chips don't have to fall exactly this way. As every selection garners consideration of drafting the best player available that fills your need.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:33 PM   #2
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

a month ago i was all for drafting a high profile wr, but now i think we go with a big name de
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:33 PM   #3
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Erasmus???
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:39 PM   #5
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I wouldnt mind that. Does Gregg Williams have a history of having aggressive pass rushing de's? He seems to throw alot of linebacker's and safeties at the line of scrimmage
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I'm curious... so if Williams was available with out #1 pick would you pass him up?
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would I? No, But it's hard to figure our leadership out at times. But it appears obvious that Williams would have more of an impact on a game then a rookie de. This draft is not very deep at de, so we may be inflating Erasmus' worth.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:45 PM   #8
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

i stated in another forum a while ago:

Round1: Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
Round2 (trade down):Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
round3(gardner trade to cleveland):Matt Jones WR Arkansas
round3: Lorenzo Alexander DT California
round4:Chase Lyman WR California
round5:Martin Patterson MLB TCU
round6:Kelly Griffeth TE Fort Hays St
round7:Scott Young OG BYU

And that what I'm sticking to
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:46 PM   #9
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That's the question now. Of course Williams has had guys with the likes of Jevon Kearse, but as last year showed we could get plenty of pressure ont the QB with our LBs. I say we don't change a good thing. If we go with a guy like DT/DE tweener Shaun Cody (likely gone early in round one,but there are others), we should be just as good as we were last year up front. Remember we had guys like Chris Clemons, Demetric Evans and Ron Warner wrecking havoc. A guy like Matt Roth is considered an upgrade.
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That's the question now. Of course Williams has had guys with the likes of Jevon Kearse, but as last year showed we could get plenty of pressure ont the QB with our LBs. I say we don't change a good thing. If we go with a guy like DT/DE tweener Shaun Cody (likely gone early in round one,but there are others), we should be just as good as we were last year up front. Remember we had guys like Chris Clemons, Demetric Evans and Ron Warner wrecking havoc. A guy like Matt Roth is considered an upgrade.
I would be curious to hear Gregg Williams' opinion on this. Does he want an upgrade? Or does he find the cornerback situation more pressing. We can already assume that he probably doesnt care much about the Wide Outs.
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You got it BossHog! Finally, someone that agrees with me and isn't completely enamoured with the top WR's in the draft. Not to say they wouldn't be good, but WR is probably only second to QB in terms of 1st round "locks" becoming busts.
Gibbs is modeling this team after teams like the Patriots, and HIS teams in the 80's....blue collar, team-oriented mentality. We will be fine with the WR's we have. They are better than the group Philly had before last year, and comparable to NE's group of the past few years....plus two of them (Thrash and Patten) know what it was like in those winning environments. We have 5 receivers that could be at least a #2 or #3 on any NFL team....at least one of them is bound to step it up and take the lead spot.
And I totally agree that they will probably pick up a WR in a later round, but I think more as a "project" to groom for a couple years on the practice squad.
I see them trading down to pick up a 2nd or high 3rd rounder and going defense with the first one or two picks (CB and maybe DE).
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i stated in another forum a while ago:

Round1: Erasmus James DE Wisconsin
Round2 (trade down):Fabian Washington CB Nebraska
round3(gardner trade to cleveland):Matt Jones WR Arkansas
round3: Lorenzo Alexander DT California
round4:Chase Lyman WR California
round5:Martin Patterson MLB TCU
round6:Kelly Griffeth TE Fort Hays St
round7:Scott Young OG BYU

And that what I'm sticking to
You're on point! I am, however, tired of Matt Jones' name popping up. Get off of it.
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I'm curious... so if Williams was available with out #1 pick would you pass him up?
No way! Unless someone is offering a very nice trade up package, I think we have to take that guy. We have a team full of #3 recivers; and a #2. Now could we make it work, yeah. If our running game is dangerous and Ramsey is on cue then we could make it work with me and Cypane 5 running routes. However, I dont think we can assume that our offense is going to get that much better overnight; so I think if Williams is there, we need that threat on the team. Just having him on the feild will take pressure off of Santana Moss, and then all those quick hits we keep thinking about could become reality. Now, if someone is offering a nice package then I say we have to think about it. But if Williams is there; our offense was just too bad last year to go untouched.
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Re: Let's face it. Our WRs are set...

BossHog:

Do you really think Alex Smith (TE Stanford) is going to be around in the third round? If he is, that might be the biggest steal of the day. I know folks here love the kid from UVa, but I think Alex Smith is at least as good and definitely has better hands.

Oh, and you had me confused for a moment with your entry "C Vince Carter Oklahoma" My first thought was Vince Carter is a forward and plays for the New Jersey Nets...
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:56 PM   #15
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Gibbs is modeling this team after teams like the Patriots, and HIS teams in the 80's....blue collar, team-oriented mentality...
I agree. Gibbs has hand picked the guys he feels is going to make this offense go. And I believe Greg Williams has the final say on the defensive side.
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