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Old 07-11-2013, 09:35 AM   #31
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:56 AM   #32
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Why do you say that?
G-Men have hung their hat on a very good defensive front 7 that was able to get pressure up front without the blitz.

But I look at the transactions and players in those positions now and it is just a different group.

Umenyiora - Gone
Canty - Gone
Boley - Gone

They were able to keep Kiwanuka but their best pass rusher, JPP, may or may not be ready for camp and may even start the season on the PUP due to back surgery he had in June. They added Dan Conner, but that is nothing to shout about. It should tell you something that Conner was signed as a FA last season and was released after only one season and could not get into the rotation.

And still no long term answer at the Safety position.

Of the 6 OGs, only 2 players have greater than 2 years experience (Snee & Boothe). Of the remaining 4, only 1 player has 2 years experience.

One of Eli's best targets of 2012 (Bennet) left for Chicago.

So, to me, anyway, they will look different on both sides of the ball.

Bright spot is, of course, the coaching and they are always capable of winning.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:05 AM   #33
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I agree with st, thats y i think dallas finishes ahead of ny
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:48 AM   #34
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G-Men have hung their hat on a very good defensive front 7 that was able to get pressure up front without the blitz.

But I look at the transactions and players in those positions now and it is just a different group.

Umenyiora - Gone
Canty - Gone
Boley - Gone

They were able to keep Kiwanuka but their best pass rusher, JPP, may or may not be ready for camp and may even start the season on the PUP due to back surgery he had in June. They added Dan Conner, but that is nothing to shout about. It should tell you something that Conner was signed as a FA last season and was released after only one season and could not get into the rotation.

And still no long term answer at the Safety position.

Of the 6 OGs, only 2 players have greater than 2 years experience (Snee & Boothe). Of the remaining 4, only 1 player has 2 years experience.

One of Eli's best targets of 2012 (Bennet) left for Chicago.

So, to me, anyway, they will look different on both sides of the ball.

Bright spot is, of course, the coaching and they are always capable of winning.
Good answer. I hope that you turn out to be correct.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:25 AM   #35
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9-7

RGIII's knee concerns me as does his durability and this team isnt the same without him.
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:13 PM   #36
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Gmen 7 - 9
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:28 PM   #37
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Why do people seem to think the Redskins will take a step back this year? I just don't see us having a worse record; several key players are back from injury, we have a rookie class with lots of potential, RG3 and Morris have NFL experience...

The only possibly negative things I can think of are:

1. A tougher schedule, but I don't think that will be a problem. It will just make us a better team for the playoffs.

2. Teams now have a full season of tape on our offense. Again, not much of a problem. Shanahan has said the playbook will evolve.

3. RG3's knee. He'll know how to protect himself better now, and even if he does get hurt, Cousins proved last season he can lead the team.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:56 PM   #39
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11-5. I think the Redskins will throw the ball more this year. RG3 will scramble less but will run with the football at times out of the read option. In the case of scrambling when the pass play breaks down, RG3 should have learned his lesson to protect himself better. The Redskins have Morris and one of the two rookie Jamison or Thompson will remind us of Ricky Ervins. In the passing game we have a lot of weapons: Garcon, Davis, Reed, Morgan, Robinson, Paulsen, Moss, and either Thompson or Jamison out of the backfield.

Defensively we have Orakpo back. Kerrigan should have a strong year. And of coursse there is Perry Riley and London Fletchers making tackles in the middle. We are stout and strong at defensive lineman. Then the secondary with Meriweather, Hall, Rambo, Thomas, Biggers, and Amerson.

If the Redskins can finish in the top 5 in both total offense and total defense the Redskins will win even more than 11 games in 2013.
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Old 07-12-2013, 03:17 PM   #40
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I got us at 10-6 and that could honestly swing either way. We have for decades played up or down to our opponents level and we need to stop that in order to have a legit shot at winning anything other than the NFC East....Sure the Division title is nice and I was pumped about it but you only have a short window to do things in this league and we need to start trending upward. We cant have any losses to the likes of teams we should be beating.

Here Is my Season Break down:
Skins vs Eagles WIN
Skins vs Packers Loss
Skins vs Lions Loss
Skins vs Raiders WIN
Skins vs Cowboys WIN
Skins vs Bears WIN
Skins vs Broncos Loss
Skins vs Chargers WIN
Skins vs Vikes WIN
Skins vs Eagles WIN
Skins vs 49ers LOSS
Skins vs Giants LOSS
Skins vs Chiefs WIN
SKins vs Falcons LOSS
Skins vs Cowboys WIN
Skins vs Giants WIN

You can take one of those wins against the Cowboys and possibly add another loss, I just do not think we sweep this Division, I feel like we have a shot against the Packers, and the Broncos but we may not be at that level yet and Rodgers and Manning are tough to crack, and I feel they will both be playoff contenders again. Falcons and 49ers will be the favs in the NFC again and we have yet to prove we can be at that level yet.

I feel like we make the playoffs again, win our first round game, and get knocked out in the 2nd round....but we build toward 2014 when we are in the NFC Championship game and possibly a SuperBowl appearance.
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I got us at 10-6 and that could honestly swing either way. We have for decades played up or down to our opponents level and we need to stop that in order to have a legit shot at winning anything other than the NFC East....Sure the Division title is nice and I was pumped about it but you only have a short window to do things in this league and we need to start trending upward. We cant have any losses to the likes of teams we should be beating.

Here Is my Season Break down:
Skins vs Eagles WIN
Skins vs Packers Loss
Skins vs Lions Loss
Skins vs Raiders WIN
Skins vs Cowboys WIN
Skins vs Bears WIN
Skins vs Broncos Loss
Skins vs Chargers WIN
Skins vs Vikes WIN
Skins vs Eagles WIN
Skins vs 49ers LOSS
Skins vs Giants LOSS
Skins vs Chiefs WIN
SKins vs Falcons LOSS
Skins vs Cowboys WIN
Skins vs Giants WIN

You can take one of those wins against the Cowboys and possibly add another loss, I just do not think we sweep this Division, I feel like we have a shot against the Packers, and the Broncos but we may not be at that level yet and Rodgers and Manning are tough to crack, and I feel they will both be playoff contenders again. Falcons and 49ers will be the favs in the NFC again and we have yet to prove we can be at that level yet.

I feel like we make the playoffs again, win our first round game, and get knocked out in the 2nd round....but we build toward 2014 when we are in the NFC Championship game and possibly a SuperBowl appearance.
Not to fret over future unknowns, but one thing I noticed in the football mags is that our coaching staff (minus Danny Smith) all have been together for either 2 to 3 years. If we do as well as I expect, I think this may be the year we lose some of our coaches. And part of what makes me have high hopes this year, aside from Griffin and Morris, is the cohesiveness of the staff and players. I think everyone is on the same page now, and in football that is huge. Next year we may very well have new somethin' or others (OC, DC, etc)
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:41 PM   #42
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11-5 if RG3 plays 14+
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:05 AM   #43
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I voted 10-6, though i feel like that's been my answer for the past couple years now...
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:31 AM   #44
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Defend the bolded statement.

We went 5-1 in division last year, and I don't think any of the other teams improved markedly. I would say all 3 likely are the same or worse than last year.

In addition we play the AFC East, sorry two of those teams are wins, not saying which two, just that we will split. So if we go 3-3 in division, and 2-2 in AFC (both low in my mind), then we need 3 wins against the north, and Seattle, Atlanta to go 8-8. No way that probability of going 8-8 or worse is 40-45%.
I already defended it with the next paragraph of the previous post, but I can rephrase it easily.

If the Skins have a 40-45% chance of finishing with 8 or fewer wins, then they have a 55-60% chance of finishing with 9 or more wins. That part of the statement I think a lot of us would agree with: the Redskins are 3 to 2 favorites to win more often than they lose next year.

I'm not going to quibble over exact percentages, which is why I threw a 5% range in there. Those aren't the exact odds. But it's in the ballpark.

If there was any shock value to the downside risk, it just means you weren't looking at the complete picture. I don't think other teams are just going to hand the NFC East over to us. I think we have to go out and earn it with a season very similar to the one we had last year.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:39 AM   #45
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Vegas thinks our over/under this year is 8 wins, third in the East.

Basically a .500 team in a division with three of them.
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