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Old 07-23-2013, 11:55 AM   #136
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i thought this thread was about Jaws' Qb countdown, not everyone elses ;-) lol .. The jury remains out on Eli on some things like where he will go down in history or if he is "elite" or not .. last season wasn't great for him.. but the kid played well in the 2 SB's he won so he's on his way to being remember as a top 10-15 talent if he keeps it up for the rest of his career... as of right now i prolly have him outside the top 5 at like 7... and i would have Peyton ahead of him. But credit where credit is due... Eli doesn't suck, he's no Phony Homo, he's pretty clutch most of the time and has won 2 SB's in recent years. He's one of the constants in the Gnat's success, so he deserves a little credit. That said, hope he falls on his face and plays like shit this year. #HTTR
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:19 PM   #137
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Oh, and nothing to say about how Rivers career stats are better than Eli's in just about every way?
How are Rivers super bowl stats? oops ...never mind.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:36 PM   #138
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How are Rivers super bowl stats? oops ...never mind.
Anytime your opinion gets translated out that Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are all time greats and Dan Marino is terrible, you should rethink your opinion.

SB wins are more about the team. Look at Brady's stats. His stats when he was winning 3 SB's arent that impressive. His stats the last 5 years blow them all away. It doesnt mean that Brady has regressed, he has actually gotten better, it means the Pats defense is what has regressed.

Trent Dilfer has proven that average to below average QB's can win SB's as long as they have an impressive defense to go with it. That doesnt mean Dilfer is one of the all time greats, it means the defense he played with was. But according to the standards you keep throwing out, the Ravens defense doesnt matter and Dilfer is an all time great.

According to your standards, Coaches dont make a difference, GM's dont make a difference, Defenses dont make a difference, Offensive Lines dont make a difference. Because if they do, then its not just the QB that matters.

Look at Rothlisbergers SB stats, they really arent that impressive. One of their SB's victories with him, he did everything he could to cost them the game and their defense saved him time and time again. They won because of their defense, not because of Big Ben. The Giants defense played a huge role in their SB victories.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:24 PM   #139
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1016374]How are Rivers super bowl stats? oops ...never mind.[/QUOTEte]

Heck, if you asked him even Archie would rank Peyton ahead of Eli as a pro QB. Anyone that believes Eli is a better QB than Peyton or Drew Brees for example is just wrong. Simple fact is that he's just not good enough, and the stats (and simple visual evidence) prove it. Doesn't mean he's not a very good QB, but he's just not among the elite...

Take off your Giant homer glasses and stop trying to make this foolish argument. Or, as I suggested earlier, take it to your brethren on the Giants board who will shower you with love and affection. But please, stop polluting this discussion about Jaws' QB rankings with this nonsense.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:31 PM   #140
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How are Rivers super bowl stats? oops ...never mind.[/QUOTEte]

Heck, if you asked him even Archie would rank Peyton ahead of Eli as a pro QB.

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Have a link to that ? My responses are to the ridiculous assertions made by HG28 .To not count Eli in the top 5 or 6 is and error.
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