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Old 07-12-2013, 06:58 PM   #16
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Jaws was never that good a QB anyway.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:11 PM   #17
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Basically Griffin is being ranked behind those guys because of his knee issues. He had torn 2 Acls in his young football career so most people will label him injury prone. Kaep to me is not better than the other 3 and this yr he will.take a step back.
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Luck is an NFL insider's son. That's Oliver's boy who just threw that interception. Like father like son.
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Horse shit. I hate when folks knock him down because of the knee injury. I am assuming Luck will be ranked ahead of him plus Wilson yet Robert won the rookie of the year award over them.

What really burns me is Wilson being ahead; honestly who would take Wilson over RGIII. If Wilson fizzles out I will not be shocked.
Um ...did you see Wilson at the end of the year? He was playing as well as anyone.
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I like Jaws alot, just that ranking is off. tough to put Wilson and miami hat dude in front of RG3. Luck is way over rated.
Luck is overrated? ok..
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Luck is overrated? ok..

Luck threw alot of picks.
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Luck threw alot of picks.


How many games did he miss last season?
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Luck threw alot of picks.
Yeah because he was throwing it 45 times a game. The coaching staff really put a lot of the offense on Luck. Not the case with RG3 and Wilson. Actually towards the end of the year, Seattle really opened up their offense as well.
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What really means a lot is where would you draft Bob in a Fantasy Draft. Not what Jaws, or anyone else thinks! Opinions are like noses, everyone has one!
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RG3 is behind those guys because he was not asked to do what the others were asked to do in the passing game. That's a fair evaluation. Wilson won a playoff game and threw all over the Atl defense in their loss. Kap got his team to the SB. Luck right now is a better pocket passer than RG3. RG3 needs to show that he can read the entire field, come off to his 2nd and 3rd options and make accurate throws from the pocket. He's capable but he didn't have enough big passing days as some of the others did. I think Jaws was fair in his evaluation.
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Jaws was never that good a QB anyway.
He was an average QB...but the man knows his stuff and he sure watches a hell of a lot more film than anyone around here does.
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Regardless of the rankings, I rather have no one other than RG3 running this offense and team HTTR
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RG3 is behind those guys because he was not asked to do what the others were asked to do in the passing game. That's a fair evaluation. Wilson won a playoff game and threw all over the Atl defense in their loss. Kap got his team to the SB. Luck right now is a better pocket passer than RG3. RG3 needs to show that he can read the entire field, come off to his 2nd and 3rd options and make accurate throws from the pocket. He's capable but he didn't have enough big passing days as some of the others did. I think Jaws was fair in his evaluation.
In what way is Wilson or Luck better in terms of passing? Passes over 10 yards (where the ball travels 10+ yards) RG3 dominates them all. RG3 has a better passer rating, and statistically and by the eye test has proven to be more accurate than Luck/Wilson. Now in terms of health, they have RG3 beat, no question, but there is no way a quarterback that did not even complete 55% of his passes is more accurate than RG3. Mark Sanchez had a higher completion percentage than Luck and if I remember correctly, they both have the same amount of turnovers.
An unhealthy RG3 outperformed Luck in each of their playoff games, and RG3 played against the better defense and had no knee. Luck is just Matt Stafford but with a weaker arm, in terms of lots of yards, but also a lot of turnovers and a bad completion percentage.

Wilson and Colin have an argument, I think they both played big in big moments. Luck right now has a lot more to prove but all the ESPN folks want to be proven right with Luck so they of course overrate him.
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RG3 at 13 is too low. Wilson and Kaepernick get artificially elevated because they play with elite offensive lines. Griffin vaulted us to the playoffs in spite of our offensive line.

Wilson played real well when defenses put pressure on him, but so did RG3 and he was under pressure more often. I think both Griffin and Wilson are here to stay, but Griffin is head and shoulders better. Kaepernick will fizzle out.
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Ultimate test:

- Is Marshawn Lynch good on his own, or did Russell Wilson make him good? Look at the history, beast mode was a beast before Wilson arrived.

- Is Frank Gore good on his own, or did Kaepernick make him good? Again, look at the stats ladies and gents.

- Now, is Alfred Morris good on his own, or did RG3 make him better? Obviously he made him better. Morris does not have the elite skills that could set a franchise rushing record (over Riggins, Portis, and Stephen Davis). Griffin's multi-faceted threat made Morris at least 200 yards better than he otherwise would have been.
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