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Old 07-29-2013, 05:28 PM   #151
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Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

Looks like Packers RB Eddie Lacy threw on some pounds between OTAs and training camp....



Eddie Lacy Is Looking Rather Large at Packers Training Camp | Bleacher Report
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Ok, why is it "not" luck for the fat guy to recover the fumble ?
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Wow that's bad, if he keeps that up he'll be playing dl
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eagles LB Jason Phillips tears ACL
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eagles LB Jason Phillips tears ACL
Another ACL at Eagles camp: Jason Phillips goes down

Whew, they're dropping like flies out there.
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Ok, why is it "not" luck for the fat guy to recover the fumble ?
The defensive lineman in OTM's example put himself in position to recover the fumble because he didn't give up and kept chasing the ballcarrier even though he knew he had no chance of catching him. I wouldn't call that luck; I would call it fortitude.
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Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

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Looks like Packers RB Eddie Lacy threw on some pounds between OTAs and training camp....



Eddie Lacy Is Looking Rather Large at Packers Training Camp | Bleacher Report
Not a good explanation from Lacy: "I guess Ive been splurging on too much fast food." Way to take care of yourself professional athlete.
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Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

Luckily for the Jets, Geno Smith isn't as bad as Lacy, but apparently he's not very fit either.

Baldinger: Geno Smith's conditioning is 'embarrassing' - NFL.com
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Amazing... these guys are called athletes for a reason. A big part of your job involves being in tip top shape. Just no excuses.
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Fans would really have a problem with Griffin putting up 3600-3800 yards passing and 20-25 TDs a year?

Man, tough crowd.

A problem with it? Probably not, but it would mean he isn't elite. It would mean he was an average or slightly above average QB. Those stats would have been elite back in the 80's and 90's, but not so much now. (edit: answered this without thinking about our system. If our RBs continue the type of success they had last year, I would be ecstatic with 20-25 TDs from RGIII)

Question. Do you think Flacco is better than Carson Palmer?

You'd be amazed to see that they have a identical career QB rating.
CP- 86.2 (1.54 TDs per game)
JF- 86.3 (1.28 TDs per game)

When we start saying "all the guy does is win", I think you overlook the main fact that the team surrounding that person has a lot to do with their success.

Also, Flacco threw matched half (11) of his TD total(22), for the regular season, in 4 games. So why is he he put up those kind of numbers in that four game span, but only managed 22 TDs for 16 games? Inconsistency. Bottom line. Flacco is not great. Flacco is not bad. Flacco is above average.

Two years ago, I had to defend Flacco from haters, now I'm having to do the opposite from people propping him up way too high.



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When does "luck" not play a role for any team in the post season?
I think you can also make a case every team that wins a Super Bowl needs luck on their side.

Luck most definitely plays a part in winning a Super Bowl. The way the ball bounces or reflects from fumbles/tips, injuries, blown calls are some of the "luck" elements involved in winning it all. More than anything, it takes skill, hard work, and good coaching to win the game. That's not to say the best team always wins the big game, it's just they are the best team within that short time span.
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When it comes to scouting players to draft when you talk about character, your not just talking about does he go out drinking all night, get into trouble, arrested or get high...your talking about discipline, drive and focus. No excuse for Geno Smith or Lacy.

What if RG3 had the drive of Jamarcus Russell? He wouldnt be playing this year...
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Luckily for the Jets, Geno Smith isn't as bad as Lacy, but apparently he's not very fit either.

Baldinger: Geno Smith's conditioning is 'embarrassing' - NFL.com
The next Donovan McNabb?
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A problem with it? Probably not, but it would mean he isn't elite. It would mean he was an average or slightly above average QB. Those stats would have been elite back in the 80's and 90's, but not so much now.

Question. Do you think Flacco is better than Carson Palmer?

You'd be amazed to see that they have a identical career QB rating.
CP- 86.2 (1.54 TDs per game)
JF- 86.3 (1.28 TDs per game)

When we start saying "all the guy does is win", I think you overlook the main fact that the team surrounding that person has a lot to do with their success.

Also, Flacco threw matched half (11) of his TD total(22), for the regular season, in 4 games. So why is he he put up those kind of numbers in that four game span, but only managed 22 TDs for 16 games? Inconsistency. Bottom line. Flacco is not great. Flacco is not bad. Flacco is above average.

Two years ago, I had to defend Flacco from haters, now I'm having to do the opposite from people propping him up way too high.
Well I guess some of you will never consider RG3 to be elite, because its hard to see him putting up insane passing numbers as long as he's playing in a Shanahan offense that places such a high premium on the running game. I actually think 3800 yards and 25 TDs is probably his ceiling in this system.

Stats are overrated. Putting up big numbers in pass happy offenses don't make you elite. Matt Stafford or Tony Romo anyone?
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Well I guess some of you will never consider RG3 to be elite, because its hard to see him putting up insane passing numbers as long as he's playing in a Shanahan offense that places such a high premium on the running game. I actually think 3800 yards and 25 TDs is probably his ceiling in this system.

Stats are overrated. Putting up big numbers in pass happy offenses don't make you elite. Matt Stafford or Tony Romo anyone?

I agree with this. I didn't really think about our system when I answered the question, but you are correct.

I'll make a change to my answer. If our RBs continue the type of success they have, I would be ecstatic with 20-25 TDs from RGIII.
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