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Old 07-29-2013, 09:47 PM   #166
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Lacey's the victim of a bad camera angle
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Well I guess some of you will never consider RG3 to be elite, because its hard to see him putting up insane passing numbers as long as he's playing in a Shanahan offense that places such a high premium on the running game. I actually think 3800 yards and 25 TDs is probably his ceiling in this system.

Stats are overrated. Putting up big numbers in pass happy offenses don't make you elite. Matt Stafford or Tony Romo anyone?
Given the system, wouldnt his stats in the ground game also be included? He did put up 800 yards and 7 TD's running to go with the 3200 passing yards and 20 passing TD's. Putting both rushing and passing together, he had 4000+ yards and 27 TD's as a rookie, which is already above your ceiling. I realize passing is the main metric to rate QB's, but RG3 isnt a regular QB in that aspect.
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When it comes to scouting players to draft when you talk about character, your not just talking about does he go out drinking all night, get into trouble, arrested or get high...your talking about discipline, drive and focus. No excuse for Geno Smith or Lacy.

What if RG3 had the drive of Jamarcus Russell? He wouldnt be playing this year...
If he didn't have the drive that he did I doubt we would have mortgaged the farm on him honestly. Shanny is better talent evaluator then Al Davis was towards the end of his life.

Looking at those two pictures I can't believe a professional RB could get that out of shape in 2 months. He said he ate a lot of fast food, what he failed to mention is that he did not move for 8 weeks from his couch while indulging in fast food.

It's almost like he made that movie that Morgan Spurlock made a few years ago "Super Size Me".

As far as Geno goes he actually had a pretty good report as far as playing QB, he just didnt run "gassers" well at the end of the day.
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Lacey's the victim of a bad camera angle
I'm not so sure.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:38 AM   #171
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Bill Barnwell breaks down the worst contracts in the NFL - Grantland


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Contract Flaw: Paying for the Outlier

Even the 49ers make mistakes. They signed Carlos Rogers away from the Redskins on a bargain-basement one-year deal for $4.25 million, and Rogers promptly picked off six passes and made the Pro Bowl. When he hit free agency, the 49ers had to pay up to get him back, and after an uneven 2012, they're already regretting the four-year, $29.3 million deal they gave him last offseason. Rogers was rumored to be on the cutting block when the 49ers tried to acquire Eric Wright last week, and if they do add a veteran cornerback before camp, his name will continue to fly in such rumors.
To all those people chirping about Carlos. 49ers are hating that contract now. Especially since he's returned to his old Carlos form.
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Bill Barnwell breaks down the worst contracts in the NFL - Grantland




To all those people chirping about Carlos. 49ers are hating that contract now. Especially since he's returned to his old Carlos form.
but but but but...it was just his contacts not his work ethic. This makes no sense.
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If he didn't have the drive that he did I doubt we would have mortgaged the farm on him honestly. Shanny is better talent evaluator then Al Davis was towards the end of his life.

Looking at those two pictures I can't believe a professional RB could get that out of shape in 2 months. He said he ate a lot of fast food, what he failed to mention is that he did not move for 8 weeks from his couch while indulging in fast food.

It's almost like he made that movie that Morgan Spurlock made a few years ago "Super Size Me".

As far as Geno goes he actually had a pretty good report as far as playing QB, he just didnt run "gassers" well at the end of the day.
You're right. Excerpt from article:

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Added Baldy on Monday's "Inside Training Camp": "However, he did look good getting in and out of the huddle, getting to the line of scrimmage, getting the ball out of his hands quickly."

"You see a lot of accuracy, a lot of zip on the ball obviously from Geno," Evans observed
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Chip Kelly's New High-Tempo Offense in Philadelphia May Face a Major Challenge: Referees - WSJ.com

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The Pats averaged 74 plays per game?? That's crazy for the pro game. I'd guess that the average is in the 50's. I think Kelly will be able to run his offense. Maybe not at the college pace but he'll be able to go quickly. But in order to run as many as New England, he's got to get first downs and not turn it over. Not sure he can do that with his QB situation.
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Looks like Packers RB Eddie Lacy threw on some pounds between OTAs and training camp....



Eddie Lacy Is Looking Rather Large at Packers Training Camp | Bleacher Report
Wow....that's just flat out lazy. I wonder if we could offer one of our backs to GB for a draft pick...maybe Royster or Helu. They need help at RB in the worst way.
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Well I guess some of you will never consider RG3 to be elite, because its hard to see him putting up insane passing numbers as long as he's playing in a Shanahan offense that places such a high premium on the running game. I actually think 3800 yards and 25 TDs is probably his ceiling in this system.

Stats are overrated. Putting up big numbers in pass happy offenses don't make you elite. Matt Stafford or Tony Romo anyone?


Exactly. Bottom line is Flacco is a proven winner. Not sure I would put him as an elite player but he's pretty damn good.
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The Pats averaged 74 plays per game?? That's crazy for the pro game. I'd guess that the average is in the 50's. I think Kelly will be able to run his offense. Maybe not at the college pace but he'll be able to go quickly. But in order to run as many as New England, he's got to get first downs and not turn it over. Not sure he can do that with his QB situation.
Avg is mid 60's I believe.
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