Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

NC_Skins · 07-24-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess not everyone feels Jay-Z is a fail as an agent

Geno Smith deal ties big money to workout bonuses | ProFootballTalk

Team exec thinks Jay-Z’s approach to Geno Smith deal was overdue | ProFootballTalk

You posted a article with a NFL executive praising the contract. I'm sure he is praising the contract because the ownership pulled a fast one on a newbie agent.

This is why it's a bad deal for players to tie their bonuses to workouts. Near the end of their contract, when do players usually hold out in search of a new contract? You guessed it. Work outs and OTAs. Now, if he holds out on those looking for a better contract, he loses out on money tied to the workouts that should have been guaranteed in the contract. Unlike the other rookie QBs who had that extra money guaranteed in their contracts. Smith can't hold out because his extra money is tied up into workouts and OTAs.

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Typically, players must participate in 80 percent of the offseason workouts to earn the bonus. For Smith, this puts extra pressure on him to be able and willing to show up and work out in the final two years of his deal. If he fails to meet the minimums, he’ll potentially lose hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Even taken from the very article you posted:

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The clause also sets up inexperienced agent Kim Miale and her boss, Jay-Z, for criticism from the agent community, which tends to criticize anyone and anything if it means helping them expand their portfolio of clients. In this specific case, given the details of the rookie deals signed by the players taken before and after Smith, the criticism may be justified.

Mattyk · 07-24-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You posted a article with a NFL executive praising the contract. I'm sure he is praising the contract because the ownership pulled a fast one on a newbie agent.

This is why it's a bad deal for players to tie their bonuses to workouts. Near the end of their contract, when do players usually hold out in search of a new contract? You guessed it. Work outs and OTAs. Now, if he holds out on those looking for a better contract, he loses out on money tied to the workouts that should have been guaranteed in the contract. Unlike the other rookie QBs who had that extra money guaranteed in their contracts. Smith can't hold out because his extra money is tied up into workouts and OTAs.

Even taken from the very article you posted:

I didn't say it was all fine and dandy. But it's not quite the disaster some are trying to make it out to be.

skinsfaninok · 07-24-2013, 09:39 PM

Did anyone see the raiders take 24 away from Tracy Porter? Lmao. He tweeted about it and basically said they just took it and gave it to woodson. Said he was mad about it. Good ol raiders lol

SFREDSKIN · 07-24-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Did anyone see the raiders take 24 away from Tracy Porter? Lmao. He tweeted about it and basically said they just took it and gave it to woodson. Said he was mad about it. Good ol raiders lol

Disagree, Woodson is a future HOF player who spent many seasons as a Raider and has earned that #.

Mattyk · 07-24-2013, 11:49 PM

^ there are better ways to go about number changes than stripping a guy. Let Woodson pay for it.

mooby · 07-25-2013, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

^ there are better ways to go about number changes than stripping a guy. Let Woodson pay for it.

Agreed. It's a little insulting that the team would just take a number away from you to give to a better player. It definitely won't help Woodson/Porter get off to the best start. Should've just settled it the old-fashioned way, which is usually an agreement between the two.

skinsfaninok · 07-25-2013, 09:34 AM

NFL Preseason Power Rankings - NFL - Chris Burke - SI.com

CRedskinsRule · 07-25-2013, 09:49 AM

NFC East Highlights from the article, in reverse order:

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27 Philadelphia Eagles

Philadelphia Eagles (4-12)
If you're a full believer in the power of Chip Kelly's offense, you'll want Philadelphia much higher than this. But a reminder that a) Kelly has yet to settle on a quarterback, and b) the Philadelphia defense was pretty putrid in its own right last season (29th in points allowed). Even if Kelly's an NFL genius, this is not an overnight fix.

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17 Dallas Cowboys

Dallas Cowboys (8-8)
In back-to-back seasons, the Cowboys have finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs by virtue of a Week 17 intra-division loss. And this version does not look appreciably better (or worse) than its previous two incarnations. That makes it hard to count on a real change in the Cowboys' fortunes.

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12 Washington Redskins

Washington Redskins (10-6)
Placed here with an asterisk. Should Robert Griffin III actually get back on the field in game shape by Week 1 or 2, the Redskins will be tough to topple in the NFC East. And that's true despite a relatively quiet summer, brought on by cap penalties assessed prior to the 2012 season.

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10 New York Giants

New York Giants (9-7)
A one-point, Week 13 loss in Washington is ultimately what kept the Giants from the postseason last year. They're arguably even more dangerous on offense now, with TE Brandon Myers (though losing RB Ahmad Bradshaw stings). The NFC East is so tight that at least the top three teams - the Giants, Washington and Dallas - might be interchangeable here.

skinsfaninok · 07-25-2013, 11:30 AM

What It's Like to Get Whacked | The MMQB with Peter King

skinsfaninok · 07-25-2013, 03:09 PM

Adam S. Is reporting that Harvin may need another surgery.

Chico23231 · 07-25-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Adam S. Is reporting that Harvin may need another surgery.

another year, another injury. heard he's getting a second opinion. dont take this guy in fantasy football

skinsfaninok · 07-25-2013, 03:18 PM

sucks for seattle they were really hoping he would be the number 1 WR

skinsfaninok · 07-25-2013, 03:21 PM

Y! SPORTS

Sedrick Ellis retiring at Age 28

skinsfaninok · 07-25-2013, 03:47 PM

^ yes me too, I like wilson but I dont like Pete the cheat and Sherman.

NC_Skins · 07-25-2013, 03:48 PM

‏@AdamSchefter

Now Matt Ryan deal done, per Mort: 5-year, $103.75 million extension, including a whopping $59 million guaranteed.

07-24-2013, 09:39 PM	#48
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Did anyone see the raiders take 24 away from Tracy Porter? Lmao. He tweeted about it and basically said they just took it and gave it to woodson. Said he was mad about it. Good ol raiders lol __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

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Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 41 Posts: 79,418	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) ^ there are better ways to go about number changes than stripping a guy. Let Woodson pay for it. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-25-2013, 09:34 AM	#52
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) NFL Preseason Power Rankings - NFL - Chris Burke - SI.com __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

07-25-2013, 11:30 AM	#54
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) What It's Like to Get Whacked \| The MMQB with Peter King __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

07-25-2013, 03:09 PM	#55
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) Adam S. Is reporting that Harvin may need another surgery. __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

07-25-2013, 03:18 PM	#57
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) sucks for seattle they were really hoping he would be the number 1 WR __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

07-25-2013, 03:21 PM	#58
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) Y! SPORTS Sedrick Ellis retiring at Age 28 __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

07-25-2013, 03:47 PM	#59
skinsfaninok Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oklahoma City (Originally from Biloxi, Ms) Age: 27 Posts: 16,008	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) ^ yes me too, I like wilson but I dont like Pete the cheat and Sherman. __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

07-25-2013, 03:48 PM	#60
NC_Skins MVP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,114	Re: Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99) ‏@AdamSchefter Now Matt Ryan deal done, per Mort: 5-year, $103.75 million extension, including a whopping $59 million guaranteed. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

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