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Old 11-01-2013, 04:19 PM   #286
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]Do you think people would take that as we are paying them to go away as opposed to something positive?[/B]
Edit: i happen to think it is a fantastic idea but people who just want to attack DS and the skins will twist it into something bad
Honestly who cares what they think. I think that is what is wrong with this entire issue, we're too worried about what people think who are not involved directly in this.
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There are several different theories and accounts about where the term came from. Nowhere is it definitively stated that the new foundland tribe who painted their bodies red is the true origin. Not to mention, that settlers referring to native americans as "redskins", and this tribe referred to as the "red men" are two completely different things.

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Indianz.Com > Doug George-Kanentiio: A Mohawk's perspective on 'Redskins'


The use of “redskins” was among the worse of these labels. That word originally referred to the Beothuks of Newfoundland, a peaceful people who colored their skin with red ochre as adornment and to keep the mosquitoes at bay. Their passivity was mistaken for weakness and after the waves of European diseases killed most of them those who survived were hunted and murdered for sport. By 1830 they were extinct. One of the reprehensible tactics was to remove the skins of the Beothuks and use them as covers for books and as leggings for the hunters.

This act of skinning Native people, both men and women, continued on along the frontier. It was an act of terror meant to instill fear and drive the Natives from coveted lands. It was justified by these stereotypes that were highly effective in undermining the dignity, pride and self-assurance of our people. We are, among all peoples in this hemisphere, the most misunderstood, the most libeled and the most despised because of the lies in the media, in popular literature and, sadly, in the schools.
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The world we live in:

Hallmark ornament has 'Deck the Halls' -- without the gay apparel

Hallmark 'Deck the Halls,' without gay apparel - CNN.com
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The use of “redskins” was among the worse of these labels. That word originally referred to the Beothuks of Newfoundland, a peaceful people who colored their skin with red ochre as adornment and to keep the mosquitoes at bay. Their passivity was mistaken for weakness and after the waves of European diseases killed most of them those who survived were hunted and murdered for sport. By 1830 they were extinct. One of the reprehensible tactics was to remove the skins of the Beothuks and use them as covers for books and as leggings for the hunters.

This act of skinning Native people, both men and women, continued on along the frontier. It was an act of terror meant to instill fear and drive the Natives from coveted lands. It was justified by these stereotypes that were highly effective in undermining the dignity, pride and self-assurance of our people. We are, among all peoples in this hemisphere, the most misunderstood, the most libeled and the most despised because of the lies in the media, in popular literature and, sadly, in the schools.
What i meant by two different things was that "redskins" or " red men" seems to have two different starting points. One being that tribe because of the paint they used and one being in reference to skin color of the native americans.
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Anyway, again, just for the record ....i am not in favor of a name change because i too think their are so many greater issues. I also think that even if the name has "racist roots", (which according to some experts it does and some it doesnt ) , that over time it has morphed into an almost racism free name. I do however respect and sympathize with any one persons concerns or feelings over the issue. I dont care how in the minority or majority that person is. I dont think it is in any way compassionate to have a "get over it" attitude twards those people. As a matter of fact I despise that take on it.
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Love this bit of news:

Anti-Redskins activist confronted at press conference | The Daily Caller
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What a Great find! This apparently is a very bad character......
And he's leading the charge for the Indians? or maybe just for profit? Lol.....
I'm pretty sure he was one of my dealers.....BITD
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Even better, here's the video of the confrontation:

Claudia Tenney -- Ousted by Halbritter Minions - YouTube

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NFL will meet with Oneida Indian who backs Redskins name
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This guy is a fraud, fuck him.
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The problem is it's in the Daily Caller. The national Media has picked their side in this argument. Stories like this and others like the one below hardly see the light of day and are relegated to blogs and local rags:

Mother Calls Neshaminy 'Redskins' Racist, Again - Schools - Lower Southampton, PA Patch


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I am a descendant of American Indians, and find it a prideful thing to call Neshaminy and the Redskins my alma matter.. it's in no way racist or insulting to anyone. People like this need to find a worthy cause and stop wasting the school boards time.
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The problem is it's in the Daily Caller. The national Media has picked their side in this argument. Stories like this and others like the one below hardly see the light of day and are relegated to blogs and local rags:

Mother Calls Neshaminy 'Redskins' Racist, Again - Schools - Lower Southampton, PA Patch


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Jenny Benner Barnes May 01, 2013 at 04:31 PM
I am a descendant of American Indians, and find it a prideful thing to call Neshaminy and the Redskins my alma matter.. it's in no way racist or insulting to anyone. People like this need to find a worthy cause and stop wasting the school boards time.
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Good grief! Even in your link, let alone other links you been shown on this board, the name "Redskins" actually predates Indians getting scalped.

The argument against the name "redskins" is still stupid. And you're still being irrational in this debate, the eli manning isn't elite debate, gun control... etc?
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Giantone so is it safe to say you think the name is offensive and raciest?
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Giantone so is it safe to say you think the name is offensive and raciest?

I have let my feelings be know in other threads on the subject ,if you are interested it can be looked up .
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I have let my feelings be know in other threads on the subject ,if you are interested it can be looked up .

It was a pretty simple question you could have answered just as easy as your comment.
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