Who will the Redskins miss the most?

CrazyCanuck · 03-13-2005, 04:02 PM

I think we can survive all 3. But based on depth concerns I'd say Smoot.

I think Springs/Harris/Wilds can handle the job. I just worry about an injury. If Springs went down I wouldn't feel so safe back there anymore.

BigSKINBauer · 03-13-2005, 04:06 PM

we will definately miss the spirit of Smooooooooooot but the value of Pierce, i am not gonna miss coles much with speed santana.

No more saying smooooooooooooott everytime he does something. i guess we can say Cooooooooooo leeey coooooooooo leeey

BrudLee · 03-13-2005, 04:24 PM

If our WR's can cut out the drops, Coles will be an afterthought. He had a 9.5 YPC last year (though that isn't entirely his fault), and we can get that from anyone.

Harris is a better tackler than Smoot, and though I will miss his presence, I'm not convinced we have downgraded dramatically at the position.

Since we have no idea who will play MLB this year (either a rehabbed Barrow or a converted Marshall) I have concerns there. Hopefully we won't miss any of them, but Pierce is the most likely.

One thing to keep in mind is that we were a 6-10 team. How much can we miss anyone if we aren't any better than that?

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-13-2005, 04:30 PM

I voted for pierce since he made sure after the play was called that everyone on the d was in their appropriate places, but if there had been a none of the above selection that would have been my choice. the coaching staff had reasons other than cap hits to not go overboard with their offers to pierce or smoot and I think that speaks volumes in my mind over their proclaimed worth to our defense. coles will be missed because he was the most consistent passing option we had last year other than cooley, but he lost all of his value to the team by asking out no matter how he did it.

but like I said, none of the above would be choice if available because I think we can upgrade each of them with less money than what it would have taken to keep them.

dieselhog · 03-13-2005, 05:30 PM

It's easy to hate him now but you don't replace 172 catches and 2,154 yards in 2 seasons so easily.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-13-2005, 07:09 PM

I didn't hate his production, I just hated the way he handled this situation. I hate it LESS because of the details that we found out about the story being blown open by the WP.

lifetimeskin · 03-13-2005, 08:40 PM

I am not sure we will miss anyone of them more than another. I think it will be more evident in the CB position. However, I think that we have made a very good decision NOT to sign overly expensive players...ala...Eagles with the first Trotter situaiton. Or the Pats with Malloy or the other CB.

We need to protect the QB and the QB to play adequate. We are run oriented and that will keep our Defense off the field.

I can't imagine that we will miss any of them!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-13-2005, 09:07 PM

This is how I see it... we will miss them until we have other players step in for them just like last year.

Daseal · 03-13-2005, 11:13 PM

I'm suprised that the who's more important Pierce/Smoot discussions were overwhelming for Pierce, now that they're both gone Smoot has a slight edge.

Mattyk · 03-13-2005, 11:22 PM

Coles is the Nader of this poll, stealing votes from Pierce, damn you Coles!

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-13-2005, 11:23 PM

I went ahead and added mine for Smooty.

mooby · 03-13-2005, 11:34 PM

i put smoot because antonio pierce was a product of the system, and lemar marshall will be too. smoot is a better corner than walt harris, and while walt harris probably will be a solid #2 corner, smoot is younger than him. l.c. was a good receiver, but him and moss are probably the same in terms of skill. moss and patten will do fine next year, but if you put in an option for none matt, i would've chosen none because we have players that will step up in their absence, and do the job just fine.

EternalEnigma21 · 03-14-2005, 12:04 AM

The term miss indicates that there are posotive emotions given to someone. I dont think the redskins (team, fans, otherwise) will truly miss any one of these. Thats a term reserved for someone who can be hurt by another's absence, and i feel that the absence of a member of an organization whose beliefs are not fitting with the organization cannot hurt that organization. On winning teams players are willing to fire agents and take paycuts to stay with a team... on losing teams players want out of hefty contracts. There was something special about the gibbs teams of the past that other (winning) teams in the league have right now.... Pride... and it will be restored to washington.

monk81 · 03-14-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHog

I initially thought Pierce, but Coles was down right tough! It seems we have some character on defense and another guy will step up because of that. On offense, hmmmm. All of these guys have skills and speed, but Thrash seems to be the only consistent WR to show his guts. It never fails to amaze me how so many fans won't let go of Smoot. I don't recall all of this 'love' for Champ. Maybe Stephen Davis though. Let it go guys.

I'd have to say Pierce although I am confident Williams can groom someone to take his place. Hope its Marshall. I agree with you on Smoot BossHog........I think Springs was the outstanding one in the secondary. Smoot did get burned on some big plays. Smoot reminds me of a young Deion.....'nuff said............

Thrash is a Gibbs kinda guy......may not have much speed, but hard working and tough.......

AND DON'T EVEN SAY THE NAME OF THAT WR THAT WENT TO THE JETS!!!!

View Poll Results: Who will the Redskins miss the most?
Pierce	36	42.86%
Smoot	43	51.19%
Coles	5	5.95%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

03-13-2005, 04:02 PM	#16
CrazyCanuck NFC East Champs Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,792	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? I think we can survive all 3. But based on depth concerns I'd say Smoot. I think Springs/Harris/Wilds can handle the job. I just worry about an injury. If Springs went down I wouldn't feel so safe back there anymore.

03-13-2005, 04:06 PM	#17
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: College Park; where they chop cars Age: 25 Posts: 5,635	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? we will definately miss the spirit of Smooooooooooot but the value of Pierce, i am not gonna miss coles much with speed santana. No more saying smooooooooooooott everytime he does something. i guess we can say Cooooooooooo leeey coooooooooo leeey

03-13-2005, 04:24 PM	#18
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? If our WR's can cut out the drops, Coles will be an afterthought. He had a 9.5 YPC last year (though that isn't entirely his fault), and we can get that from anyone. Harris is a better tackler than Smoot, and though I will miss his presence, I'm not convinced we have downgraded dramatically at the position. Since we have no idea who will play MLB this year (either a rehabbed Barrow or a converted Marshall) I have concerns there. Hopefully we won't miss any of them, but Pierce is the most likely. One thing to keep in mind is that we were a 6-10 team. How much can we miss anyone if we aren't any better than that? __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

03-13-2005, 04:30 PM	#19
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 32 Posts: 3,504	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? I voted for pierce since he made sure after the play was called that everyone on the d was in their appropriate places, but if there had been a none of the above selection that would have been my choice. the coaching staff had reasons other than cap hits to not go overboard with their offers to pierce or smoot and I think that speaks volumes in my mind over their proclaimed worth to our defense. coles will be missed because he was the most consistent passing option we had last year other than cooley, but he lost all of his value to the team by asking out no matter how he did it. but like I said, none of the above would be choice if available because I think we can upgrade each of them with less money than what it would have taken to keep them.

03-13-2005, 05:30 PM	#20
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 41 Posts: 166	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? It's easy to hate him now but you don't replace 172 catches and 2,154 yards in 2 seasons so easily.

03-13-2005, 07:09 PM	#21
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? I didn't hate his production, I just hated the way he handled this situation. I hate it LESS because of the details that we found out about the story being blown open by the WP. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-13-2005, 08:40 PM	#22
lifetimeskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 47 Posts: 84	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? I am not sure we will miss anyone of them more than another. I think it will be more evident in the CB position. However, I think that we have made a very good decision NOT to sign overly expensive players...ala...Eagles with the first Trotter situaiton. Or the Pats with Malloy or the other CB. We need to protect the QB and the QB to play adequate. We are run oriented and that will keep our Defense off the field. I can't imagine that we will miss any of them! __________________ ---lifetime skin

03-13-2005, 09:07 PM	#23
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? This is how I see it... we will miss them until we have other players step in for them just like last year. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-13-2005, 11:13 PM	#24
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? I'm suprised that the who's more important Pierce/Smoot discussions were overwhelming for Pierce, now that they're both gone Smoot has a slight edge.

03-13-2005, 11:22 PM	#25
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,751	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? Coles is the Nader of this poll, stealing votes from Pierce, damn you Coles! __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-13-2005, 11:23 PM	#26
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,120	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? I went ahead and added mine for Smooty. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-13-2005, 11:34 PM	#27
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? i put smoot because antonio pierce was a product of the system, and lemar marshall will be too. smoot is a better corner than walt harris, and while walt harris probably will be a solid #2 corner, smoot is younger than him. l.c. was a good receiver, but him and moss are probably the same in terms of skill. moss and patten will do fine next year, but if you put in an option for none matt, i would've chosen none because we have players that will step up in their absence, and do the job just fine.

03-14-2005, 12:04 AM	#28
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Warrenton VA Age: 33 Posts: 2,953	Re: Who will the Redskins miss the most? The term miss indicates that there are posotive emotions given to someone. I dont think the redskins (team, fans, otherwise) will truly miss any one of these. Thats a term reserved for someone who can be hurt by another's absence, and i feel that the absence of a member of an organization whose beliefs are not fitting with the organization cannot hurt that organization. On winning teams players are willing to fire agents and take paycuts to stay with a team... on losing teams players want out of hefty contracts. There was something special about the gibbs teams of the past that other (winning) teams in the league have right now.... Pride... and it will be restored to washington.

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