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Old 08-09-2013, 12:50 PM   #256
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Rex got no help from the Oline, and I didnt think it was that bad. It was 3rd string QBing...what do you expect?

Cousins said in an interview, Rex has had a huge impact in his development and alot of his early success is directly attributed to Rex being there and showing both him and RG3 Kyle's system and how to carry themself.

Need people like that on the roster.
So now we make excuses for Rex as to why he looks bad but PW... not allowed to have excuses. I call BS.

Rex sucks. period. As for Cousin's development...that can be done from a coaches position. Rex should not be taking up a spot on this team. He was a has been when he got here and still is a has been. What makes it worse is he now is in a system that does not suit him. Rex is a simple Pro style QB and definitely should not be in a college spread style offense.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:55 PM   #257
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First thing I'm doing in Madden is trading Griffin and Cousins. It's all about Pat White.
All were talking about is who takes the 3rd QB spot. Personally I'd rather have PW who is younger, healthier, throws decent spirals, and can thread the needle as he did several times.

Yes even though it was against 4th stringers. He atleast has up side and mobility. Rex is not going to get any better, Rex is not going to all of a sudden become mobile.

He was never mobile under the basic offense 4 yrs ago and still is not mobile. Plus he makes stupid decisions.
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Old 08-09-2013, 12:57 PM   #258
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We might as well debate who the backup long snapper should be. That would probably be a more productive discussion.

Barring injury White isn't making the team, sorry.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:01 PM   #259
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and I would have taken Colt Brennan over Rex. He was younger, more mobile, and had a better spiral. Not to mention he had more upside, Rex is maxed out.
Chances are no one will see Grossman, White, or Brennan take a single real snap this year. It doesn't matter who might or might not be better - likely they're all irrelevant.
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Old 08-09-2013, 01:14 PM   #260
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Well then hopefully what your saying is both will be off the team and some no name Rookie will be on the PS.

Rex looked bad last night. bad against second stringers.
I fail to see how he looked "bad". He looked under pressure but he drove us down the field several times only to get short-circuited by penalties. He wasn't great certainly either.
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All were talking about is who takes the 3rd QB spot. Personally I'd rather have PW who is younger, healthier, throws decent spirals, and can thread the needle as he did several times.

Yes even though it was against 4th stringers. He atleast has up side and mobility. Rex is not going to get any better, Rex is not going to all of a sudden become mobile.

He was never mobile under the basic offense 4 yrs ago and still is not mobile. Plus he makes stupid decisions.
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I ask this seriously, b/c I can't remember, did any throw by PW travel more than 20 yards through the air (from his hand to the point of reception)?

And yeah, Matty, I could count drink my beer, check the twitter feeds and post in the game thread while PW was delivering the ball. You could really see this at training camp. When the 4 QB's were throwing, RGIII's ball invariably arrived first and generally with time to switch and watch another receiver make a catch. PW's ball was almost always the last to get from QB to receiver - regardless of the drill.

With PW in there, the field shrinks to about 20 yards past the line of scrimmage and mediocre man coverage wins. At least Grossman can make all the throws. If we really ever needed to play our 3rd QB in a game situation, Grossman over White every time.

If your argument is PW is the next Colt Brennan, I think you have already proved the "PW not making the roster" crowd's case.
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I think it should be a rule moving forward the first post in every game day thread is this:

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I fail to see how he looked "bad". He looked under pressure but he drove us down the field several times only to get short-circuited by penalties. He wasn't great certainly either.
There is a reason Grossman is not the starter. There is a reason the team drafted not one but two QB's last year. Because Grossman was not getting the job done. So why keep him? He's old. He's has no mobility. He and his peak has already been reached.

PW in my opinion was in the wrong system and situation in Miami. He's young. He's mobile. and he has a ton of up side and potential.
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There is a reason Grossman is not the starter. There is a reason the team drafted not one but two QB's last year. Because Grossman was not getting the job done. So why keep him? He's old. He's has no mobility. He and his peak has already been reached.

PW in my opinion was in the wrong system and situation in Miami. He's young. He's mobile. and he has a ton of up side and potential.
If we are going to make "there is a reason..." arguments, I may offer one: there is a reason why Pat White was out of work for a long time and is unwanted by any other team.
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I ask this seriously, b/c I can't remember, did any throw by PW travel more than 20 yards through the air (from his hand to the point of reception)?

And yeah, Matty, I could count drink my beer, check the twitter feeds and post in the game thread while PW was delivering the ball. You could really see this at training camp. When the 4 QB's were throwing, RGIII's ball invariably arrived first and generally with time to switch and watch another receiver make a catch. PW's ball was almost always the last to get from QB to receiver - regardless of the drill.

With PW in there, the field shrinks to about 20 yards past the line of scrimmage and mediocre man coverage wins. At least Grossman can make all the throws. If we really ever needed to play our 3rd QB in a game situation, Grossman over White every time.

If your argument is PW is the next Colt Brennan, I think you have already proved the "PW not making the roster" crowd's case.
I guess if you think McNabb is better then Brennan then you got him.
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If we are going to make "there is a reason..." arguments, I may offer one: there is a reason why Pat White was out of work for a long time and is unwanted by any other team.
One could say the same for Grossman. When was the last time he started?... couple years ago?

There is a reason other teams are not banging our door down to get Grossman. If I remember correctly didn't he want to go to Miami over the summer and Miami said NO!.

Wonder why? he's so good. They must be idiots also.
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I love preseason football, people actually debate about important vital components to the Redskins like who would be the better 3rd string quarterback... Pat White vs. Rex Grossman
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Look I'm in no way saying PW is our savior and better then RG3 or Cousins. All I'm saying is we know what we have in Grossman and in my opinion as a player he does not offer much. Does that mean PW offers more? no but he's younger and more mobile.

You want to solve the problem? Lets pick up a Rookie QB and stick him on the PS to develop for when we trade Cousins away for draft picks next year.
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I love preseason football, people actually debate about important vital components to the Redskins like who would be the better 3rd string quarterback... Pat White vs. Rex Grossman
To be honest this is a blessing twist. We could be talking about who the starting QB should be and how bad they suck like we have done for over 10 yrs.
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