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Old 08-14-2013, 06:18 PM   #61
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Lol, not by any 1 player though. I'd prefer to have a potent passing attack if ever needing to go 80yards in a 2 minute drill when trailing, especially if getting to 2,500yd rushing requires 1 concussion, 2 knee sprains, and major offseason surgery that calls into question future risks to the greatest player a team has ever had in an era that is pass driven.

4,000yds is a reasonable expectation,less riskier, and will lead to more wins.IMO
But thats just it. It didnt require any of that. Against Atlanta, he made a stupid decision to try and cut back... into 3 Atlanta players. Against the Ravens, same thing. He would have made the exact same amount of yards had he gone out of bounds on both of those plays, and wouldnt have been injured on either. RG3 has to run smarter when he takes off. He is going to scramble, so even if there are no designed QB runs, he is still going to run.

Also as the NFL transitions to pass offenses, the defenses are making that same transition. Smaller DE's to have a quicker pash rush. Smaller faster LB's for coverage (Although the players are getting bigger overall, but thats true for run stoppers as well). Being a good running team isnt really a bad idea.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:18 PM   #62
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Lol, not by any 1 player though. I'd prefer to have a potent passing attack if ever needing to go 80yards in a 2 minute drill when trailing, especially if getting to 2,500yd rushing requires 1 concussion, 2 knee sprains, and major offseason surgery that calls into question future risks to the greatest player a team has ever had in an era that is pass driven.

4,000yds is a reasonable expectation,less riskier, and will lead to more wins.IMO
Well yeah, I'm talking about rushing yards as a team.

I doubt Shanny's love for the running game is ever going to fade. A strong running game is always a QBs best friend especially one coming off a knee injury. Plus it sets up the playaction game that Shanny also loves.

I won't be surprised if Griffin's rushing numbers are cut in half this year, but will he make it up throwing or will someone like Helu pick up the slack? Throwing for 4000 might be a bit steep IMO. I could see him around 3500.
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:24 PM   #63
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Well yeah, I'm talking about rushing yards as a team.

I doubt Shanny's love for the running game is ever going to fade. A strong running game is always a QBs best friend especially one coming off a knee injury. Plus it sets up the playaction game that Shanny also loves.

I won't be surprised if Griffin's rushing numbers are cut in half this year, but will he make it up throwing or will someone like Helu pick up the slack? Throwing for 4000 might be a bit steep IMO. I could see him around 3500.
I think we're saying the same thing- love the Shanny play action and run heavy, and rob to run considerably less to pass more. He did 3,200. I think that's great for a canon armed rookie missing his TE and recieving RB option. Rob can do anything.

Lol, I'm betting you Matty or rather predicting 4,000 this year. This offense is going to be beautiful w/ Fred and Helu. Damn this August is dragging.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:53 PM   #64
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Keim as always is a voice of reason

Robert Griffin III brainwashed? That's hard to imagine - ESPN
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Glad to see the RG3 stuff quiet down...

In other Skins news,, how's the rookie Jordan Reed doing? Are we going to see any see any 2 TE sets this year?
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There are a handful of drama queens out there that want to twist everything into a shit storm of controversy. LaVar is one of them. He should know, he was a dark cloud here at the end of career with the Skins.

Best to just tune those morons out.
I'd say there's more than just a handful. Every national sports talk radio host would fit that description, and unfortunately they don't just report news, they make it. RGIII needs to pick his words more carefully. Like it or not, everything he says will be magnified and repeated and analyzed ad naseum. He needs to study game film of Derek Jeter with the press. There's nothing to gain by being open with the media, but there is a lot to lose.
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According to the article, McNabb said that Skins' management asked him to speak to Griffin.

Wow. Just wow. McNabb's credibility so completely shot. He had to know that no one in their right mind would believe that.
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Glad to see the RG3 stuff quiet down...

In other Skins news,, how's the rookie Jordan Reed doing? Are we going to see any see any 2 TE sets this year?
He apparently had a really impressive catch from grossman and another one from RG3 today. I feel like he is turning some heads out there.
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I'd say there's more than just a handful. Every national sports talk radio host would fit that description, and unfortunately they don't just report news, they make it. RGIII needs to pick his words more carefully. Like it or not, everything he says will be magnified and repeated and analyzed ad naseum. He needs to study game film of Derek Jeter with the press. There's nothing to gain by being open with the media, but there is a lot to lose.
Yup I hear ya, I was focusing on the local team media, but you're right the media at large has plenty of drama headline seeking types.

I agree RG3 would be wise to say more by saying less like Jeter, but he is just 23 and still learning the ropes. He'll get it figured out eventually.
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I like Brian Mitchell a lot. I like to consider him an objective homer. He'll rip the team when they deserve it but will give credit where it's due.

Like you said with the trend, anyone who constantly bad mouths the Skins either bombed with them or kinda had to deal with poor management/wanted to leave (i.e. Carlos Rogers, Antonio Pierce)

But you know who's never had anything to say despite being rag dolled around for a few years? Ramsey. You'd think if anyone had a reason to bitch about the Skins organization, it'd be him.
BMitch has sort of......grown on me. Used to piss me off...mostly because he was right. I rather enjoy him these days.
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listen to graz, keim, and cooley. ignore the idiots, they're just trying to up their Q rating.
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bmitch isn't bad either. took him a year or two to get used to radio, but he's come a long way.
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According to the article, McNabb said that Skins' management asked him to speak to Griffin.

Wow. Just wow. McNabb's credibility so completely shot. He had to know that no one in their right mind would believe that.
Really.....how does that conversation go?
"DM......Bruce here, Hey look, we have this incredibly talented, Super bright QB we're interested in. I....wonder.....if we said please would you consider speaking to him? If your successful, he should be poisoned beyond any recognition, destroy his own career before it gets started, become a verminous locker room pariah and the laughing stock of the league....
Appreciate it man!"
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listen to graz, keim, and cooley. ignore the idiots, they're just trying to up their Q rating.
Yes. This is the media trying their damnedest to find a story here. I am pretty sure at this point the Shanny and Griff are punking them all.
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According to the article, McNabb said that Skins' management asked him to speak to Griffin.

Wow. Just wow. McNabb's credibility so completely shot. He had to know that no one in their right mind would believe that.
That is pretty funny since Redskins management starts with Shanny now. He has a say in all of that, and Shanny and McNabb clearly dont like each other. Its also funny that McNabb is claiming he is brainwashed when 99% of the media now are claiming that RG3 not liking "The plan" is him challenging the authority of Shanny. McNabb has blown past the dare to be different concept and right into dare to be stupid territory.
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